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Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by tylersmith »

fatjokes wrote: post #33
tylersmith wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes a slur specifically "alt-right"?

Not sure why you're down voted. It's a legitimate question, particularly from many who may not follow US politics very closely. The alt right popularized particular terms that have racial and misogynistic undertones as insults such as cuck and soy boy.

Thanks. I was imagining the more "traditional" (for lack of a better word) racist and sexist slurs that have been around for a lot longer than the alt-right, but I see what you mean. I wasn't familiar with what was said in the incident being discussed.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by yequalsx »

cuckcuckspruce wrote: post #39
yequalsx wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a gun owner. Indeed I'm very much opposed to people being able to own guns and hope that someday they will be banned in the U.S. I do understand your perspective and why this is upsetting to you. For me I see it as a step toward people being more anti-gun ownership. Societies evolve and social views change. Our views on marijuana, smoking, etc. have changed over the decades. I hope I am now seeing the beginni…

Offtopic: What legal mechanism do you propose to use to ban the private ownership of firearms in the United States of America? Edit: Additionally, what do you want done about all of the currently legal guns that exist in this country when this ban goes into effect?

I would like it to be illegal for people to own guns. Those who violate the law (as the ban would be in the form of a law) would go to jail. Current owners would turn in their guns and those guns would be destroyed.

The 2nd Amendment is oddly worded. It does speak of a well regulated militia. I'm not a lawyer or a legal expert but it seems to me that banning the ownership of guns except for members of the militia should be constitutional. I could be wrong. It also seems to me that for those who tend toward original intent interpretations (majority of current Supreme Court) would agree that the founders only saw it fit that people be able to own guns with similar firepower and lethality as muskets. So I could see a law saying that we can own guns but they are quite limited in comparison to what is currently legal to own.

There are far more people in the country now versus 250 years ago. The population density is far greater. We are much more of an urban society. In such circumstances I see no necessity for allowing gun ownership. I don't think the propensity to assholeness has increased but by virtue of having far more people now than in the past the number of assholes has greatly increased. It's best that the lethality of devices we can carry be very much curtailed than what it currently is.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by huntie »

cuckcuckspruce wrote: post #44
huntie wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A constitutional ammendment is the most straightforward way.

So a repeal of the Second Amendment to the Constitution?

Yes, just as the 21st amendment repealed the 18th. I'm not suggesting this is easy, but any other method gets messy due to the 2nd.

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Post by zombieprocesses »

yequalsx wrote: post #28
Rebelgecko wrote: post #15

This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

I'm not a gun owner. Indeed I'm very much opposed to people being able to own guns and hope that someday they will be banned in the U.S. I do understand your perspective and why this is upsetting to you. For me I see it as a step toward people being more anti-gun ownership. Societies evolve and social views change. Our views on marijuana, smoking, etc. have changed over the decades. I hope I am now seeing the beginni…

> Societies evolve and social views change.

That's why we have principles and constitutional rights. So that our rights aren't taken away on a whim of societal change.

I'm from NY and I've never owned a gun and I probably will never do so. But even I would be against repealing the 2nd amendment.

The fact that people here are so openly talking about repealing the 2nd amendment and taking away more of our rights is really concerning. And it's self-defeating. It'll only make americans more wary of losing our 2nd amendment rights and increase gun sales.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by [deleted] »

fatjokes wrote: post #33
tylersmith wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes a slur specifically "alt-right"?

Not sure why you're down voted. It's a legitimate question, particularly from many who may not follow US politics very closely. The alt right popularized particular terms that have racial and misogynistic undertones as insults such as cuck and soy boy.

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Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by driverdan »

oh-kumudo wrote: post #27
jayess wrote: post #5

Who wants to open a free-speech based forum site?

You will have drug/gun/nazi/porno running wild in that place very quickly.

So? I can see some objection to Nazis but what's your issue with the other topics?

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Post by zombieprocesses »

platinumrad wrote: post #8
jayess wrote: post #5

Who wants to open a free-speech based forum site?

Voat already exists and already has a reputation for being both terrible and a ghost town.

The problem with voat is that it is based in europe and if voat ever got traffic, the european authorities would shut it down.

We need something in the US where we have free speech rights.

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Post by CydeWeys »

SpikeDad wrote: post #26
CydeWeys wrote: post #23

Great, so /r/gundeals, which was nothing more than a sales aggregator for law-abiding online retailers, is gone, but /r/the_donald, a vile, rampantly bigoted, conspiracy-theory-peddling shithole, is allowed to stay?

You added "law-abiding". How do you know this?

Because it was all links to normal, legal, gun retailers with online stores, like Dick's Sporting Goods, Cabela's, Bud's Gun Shop, KY Gun Co, Palmetto State Armory, etc. (There's dozens more big ones.) All of them follow required laws in shipping only to FFL holders.

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

_frog wrote: post #58
x14 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>hope that someday they will be banned in the U.S How would something like that possibly be carried out?

In the same way other countries who've banned firearms have carried it out? It's not like there's no precedent for this if you look outside of America.

America isn't other countries. Guns are as ingrained in rural America's culture as lifted trucks and beer. There would literally be armed revolts if the government tried taking peoples' guns away en masse.
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