New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

Post by cageface » Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 9:31 AM UTC

3131s wrote: post #49

jimnotgym wrote: post #18

I don't know if it worries my American chums, but I won't visit the USA. As a foreign tourist bringing money into your economy I feel there is a very real risk to my privacy and increasingly my person. I am beginning to favour goods and services from EU where human rights still mean something. Perhaps it doesn't matter to you how the US is perceived overseas, perhaps you don't want my money. Perhaps you don't mind be…

I am an American living outside the US for ~5 years. It's become very difficult to plan for the future now that I am in a permanent relationship with a non-US citizen (we would be married already if not for the various complications associated with being different nationalities). Especially since she is from a so-called "shithole" country, one of the poorest on earth, we have doubts about whether it's even worth ever…

Post by ATsch » Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 9:51 AM UTC

lethargic_meat wrote: post #31

nicolas_t wrote: post #25

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I sometimes have to go to the US for business purposes but from now on will only do so with a wiped computer with just enough installed to look like a normal user's data.

Just have multi-boot and before crossing set the auto-boot timeout at 0, then change it later. If you want to be safe, you can also copy and delete the boot details for your actual partition. I leave a dummy partition with Windows, office and other shortcuts and a wallpaper of a cat during my US visits. I also have both a facebook and a gmail subscribed to all the spam you can get. Not because I have any criminal act…

Post by tomalpha » Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 9:56 AM UTC

tunareter wrote: post #17

For those who aren't US citizens, the advice in that article is absolutely terrible. Refuse to cooperate and you'll be on the next flight to whatever CBP deem is your home, and good luck ever getting an ESTA or Visa in future.

Post by speeq » Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 10:01 AM UTC

arethuza wrote: post #57

kylec wrote: post #48

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To be honest, I doubt the amount of money brought into the US by foreign tourists amounts to much in the big scheme of things. I respect your principled stand against the threats against your security and privacy by the US Government, but it won’t really make anyone here poorer.

"expenditures by international visitors in the United States totaled $244.7 billion in 2016" https://www.selectusa.gov/travel-tourism-and-hospitality-ind... About 1.3% of US GDP - which is maybe not significant to the US economy as a whole but I suspect that spending is very localized in locations that probably would suffer if foreign tourists reduced in numbers.

Post by dbbk » Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 10:06 AM UTC

tunareter wrote: post #35

rimliu wrote: post #20

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> and good luck ever getting an ESTA or Visa in future Would you want one after this anyway?

Maybe your employer has offices there. Maybe you have relatives there. Maybe you have clients there. Or conferences, or other professional events. Maybe you are even resident there.