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New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Re: New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

saguro wrote: post #8
tehlike wrote: post #6

This should serve as a reminder to everyone to donate/support EFF and ACLU, as two of the very few organizations that watches for our rights. It is also a reminder that as we get more numb to issues like this, it gets worse. It is probably time to call your representatives and raise your voice.

Because calling paid-for representatives has such a strong record of success over the last decade of human rights erosion. Talking to your representative is roughly as useful in curbing these things, as doing nothing at all. What's the real solution?

> Talking to your representative is roughly as useful in curbing these things, as doing nothing at all

Have you ever called your representatives?

Re: New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Post by zeth__ »

saguro wrote: post #8
tehlike wrote: post #6

This should serve as a reminder to everyone to donate/support EFF and ACLU, as two of the very few organizations that watches for our rights. It is also a reminder that as we get more numb to issues like this, it gets worse. It is probably time to call your representatives and raise your voice.

Because calling paid-for representatives has such a strong record of success over the last decade of human rights erosion. Talking to your representative is roughly as useful in curbing these things, as doing nothing at all. What's the real solution?

And doing nothing will be so much better.

Re: New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Post by [deleted] »

saguro wrote: post #8
tehlike wrote: post #6

This should serve as a reminder to everyone to donate/support EFF and ACLU, as two of the very few organizations that watches for our rights. It is also a reminder that as we get more numb to issues like this, it gets worse. It is probably time to call your representatives and raise your voice.

Because calling paid-for representatives has such a strong record of success over the last decade of human rights erosion. Talking to your representative is roughly as useful in curbing these things, as doing nothing at all. What's the real solution?

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Re: New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Post by saguro »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #11
saguro wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because calling paid-for representatives has such a strong record of success over the last decade of human rights erosion. Talking to your representative is roughly as useful in curbing these things, as doing nothing at all. What's the real solution?

> Talking to your representative is roughly as useful in curbing these things, as doing nothing at all Have you ever called your representatives?

www.google.com/search?q=i+contacted+my+representative+site%3Areddit.com

Knock yourself out.

Spoiler alert: almost everyone reports getting a cookie-cutter email or scripted response about why the rep will stay the course. They clearly have an established strategy of how to handle the 'contact your rep' crowd and channel their efforts to /dev/null.

Re: New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Post by jimnotgym »

I don't know if it worries my American chums, but I won't visit the USA. As a foreign tourist bringing money into your economy I feel there is a very real risk to my privacy and increasingly my person. I am beginning to favour goods and services from EU where human rights still mean something.

Perhaps it doesn't matter to you how the US is perceived overseas, perhaps you don't want my money. Perhaps you don't mind being poorer. To me it has become the land of the police-state and the home of the Trump-Chumps.

Re: New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Post by cinquemb »

b6 wrote: post #12

Absolutely not. Having lived outside the US for two years (so far), I halfway expect to encounter suspicion when I return. I absolutely will not stand for this. I will not cooperate and I will resist as much as possible, short of violence.

I'm in the same position, but I suspect it will get much worse than this as it has since the start of The Global War On Terror™.

Time to go long Leidos Holdings, Booz Allen Hamilton, CSRA, SAIC, CACI International, end etc?

Re: New DHS policy on demands for passwords to travelers’ electronic devices

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Post by rimliu »

tunareter wrote: post #17

For those who aren't US citizens, the advice in that article is absolutely terrible. Refuse to cooperate and you'll be on the next flight to whatever CBP deem is your home, and good luck ever getting an ESTA or Visa in future.

  > and good luck ever getting an ESTA or Visa in future
Would you want one after this anyway?
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