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One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by btilly »

bad_user wrote: post #60
kragen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, these distributions are very skewed. A non-gender-or-orientation-specific given person can go for two weeks without having sex and then have sex ten or twenty times in a weekend-long speed-fueled orgy (or so the stories go), and that still averages out to 0.7 to 1.4 times a day. So it's kind of a sticky subject. It can be really hard to get your arms around all the issues. What's the relative frequency…

I don't get it ... what makes gay men be so successful in finding sex partners?

Men generally are more open to casual sex than women.

When both sides are easily convinced, it happens a lot more.

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by eru »

sigzero wrote: post #58
jules wrote: post #52

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If you think animals are that dumb you are mistaken. We have a cock (= adult male chicken) who is very aggressive, but only against human males . So if chickens can recognize the gender of other species, then I'm pretty sure that a giraffe can recognize the gender of one of its own species.

Not dumb...some animals are rather smart. I am willing to bet that humans have the most emotionally complex system though.

If you could come up with a definition, that claim may have some content.

E.g. should the (sexual or otherwise) behaviour of ants or ant hills be classified as emotional?

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by eru »

jacquesm wrote: post #59
amirmc wrote: post #31

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...whatever effects they've had have become part of society Your comment seems to imply that the effects are complete. I'd disagree with that. I'd say access to pornography has changed dramatically in recent years. Anyone with an internet connection can find porn in relative anonymity and I don't think we've seen the full effects of it yet. children will get desensitized to the typical types of sex early on As childr…

It's gotten to the point where the porn will find you. Try surfing intensively across a range of sites for a couple of hours without running in to porn. All it takes is one link to an expired domain.

An ad filter is a good idea.

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by thebigshane »

jules wrote: post #52
thebigshane wrote: post #40

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It seems like these examples are given to "excuse" human homosexual behavior ("See! It's perfectly natural. Look at the Giraffes!"). I don't have a strong opinion about human homosexual behavior but I do think these examples are meaningless for this intention. Giraffes are probably too dumb, too horny and too indifferent to care about gender or anything. They see a sexual opportunity and they take it. I speculate tha…

If you think animals are that dumb you are mistaken. We have a cock (= adult male chicken) who is very aggressive, but only against human males . So if chickens can recognize the gender of other species, then I'm pretty sure that a giraffe can recognize the gender of one of its own species.

I don't mean to imply that ignorance is the cause of their homosexuality! Only that Giraffes are mostly indifferent to gender relative to their "horny-ness" (is there a better word I could use?) which is far different than human homosexuality.

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by ebiester »

sigzero wrote: post #57
btilly wrote: post #48

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Some may do that, but I personally have no desire to excuse human homosexual behavior. If you can't accept that people have the right to do whatever they want that hurts nobody else, then I'm not going to change you. However I take great delight in correcting bigots who make the mistake of claiming that homosexuality is a perversion that is only found in humans. And somehow I never seem to find a shortage of those. A…

I would not say it is a "perversion" and I wouldn't try to use "natural" in the animal kingdom way. I would say that the male body is not made/constructed/evolved (however you want to say that) for that kind of sexual contact. In that sense it is not a "natural" act.

You've never discovered the magic of the prostate.

Seriously, though, what purpose does the prostate have to have such nerve bundles? Sometimes, evolutionary pressures don't explain everything. Some things are just chance.

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by ebiester »

gscott wrote: post #49
kragen wrote: post #35

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I wonder what fraction of human sexual encounters are homosexual? There's the old studies the fundamentalist Christians like to trot out where 28% of the gay interviewees reported more than a thousand lifetime sexual partners, while I suspect the median number of lifetime sexual partners across the adult US population is somewhere around 10. So it wouldn't be terribly surprising if the majority of human sexual encoun…

1000 sounds like a reasonable number here you have George Michael going to a park and hooking up with random people. http://www.celebitchy.com/1243/george_michael_has_sex_with_r... the guys go to the park to have sex with random guys hence how the other fellow was there too. I believe some some software offered by one of the YC companies is most used for same-sex hooking up. But I am speaking from a point of jelousy…

Most of us don't have any particular interest in pushing up the numbers. Further, the GLBT population and the straight population call different things sex. Depending on the definition, I've either had sex with hundreds of people (including mutual masturbation and making out, or strictly oral sex) or fewer than 10. (penetration)

I know, TMI. However, think about what it would be like if a society found it socially acceptable for heterosexual couples to make out and mutually masturbate casually. The barrier would likely be lower.

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by kragen »

bad_user wrote: post #60
kragen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, these distributions are very skewed. A non-gender-or-orientation-specific given person can go for two weeks without having sex and then have sex ten or twenty times in a weekend-long speed-fueled orgy (or so the stories go), and that still averages out to 0.7 to 1.4 times a day. So it's kind of a sticky subject. It can be really hard to get your arms around all the issues. What's the relative frequency…

I don't get it ... what makes gay men be so successful in finding sex partners?

Young women have an easy time finding sex partners too. The vast majority of young men will say yes if a young female stranger asks them to have sex, unless there's something visibly wrong with her, or they're in a monogamous relationship, or they're gay.

The situation for young gay men is similar to the situation for young het women, except that they're more inclined to take advantage of the opportunity to have sex with strangers.

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by roel_v »

thebigshane wrote: post #65
jules wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think animals are that dumb you are mistaken. We have a cock (= adult male chicken) who is very aggressive, but only against human males . So if chickens can recognize the gender of other species, then I'm pretty sure that a giraffe can recognize the gender of one of its own species.

I don't mean to imply that ignorance is the cause of their homosexuality! Only that Giraffes are mostly indifferent to gender relative to their "horny-ness" (is there a better word I could use?) which is far different than human homosexuality.

/"horny-ness" (is there a better word I could use?)/

-> level of sexual arousal

Leave it up to me to transform a perfectly understandable and conversational word into something abstract and clinical ;)

Re: One reason why humans are special and unique: We masturbate. A lot

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Post by gscott »

ebiester wrote: post #67
gscott wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1000 sounds like a reasonable number here you have George Michael going to a park and hooking up with random people. http://www.celebitchy.com/1243/george_michael_has_sex_with_r... the guys go to the park to have sex with random guys hence how the other fellow was there too. I believe some some software offered by one of the YC companies is most used for same-sex hooking up. But I am speaking from a point of jelousy…

Most of us don't have any particular interest in pushing up the numbers. Further, the GLBT population and the straight population call different things sex. Depending on the definition, I've either had sex with hundreds of people (including mutual masturbation and making out, or strictly oral sex) or fewer than 10. (penetration) I know, TMI. However, think about what it would be like if a society found it socially ac…

I believe the normal idea that sex is penetration. 1000 of course is probably not usual but might be possible with some effort.
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