Wage slavery is especially rampant in the food and beverage industry where low margins and high competition are the norm. Including "tips" (you could still tip for extraordinary service) as well as sales tax in the price might be the first step towards more transparency and fair pay for everyone involved (owners to waiters) in what essentially amounts to a luxury service anyway.
Year of Upheaval for Restaurants That Ended Tipping
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#62Traditionally, there was little tipping here in Germany, as service is included in the prices. One would usually just round up the cents. But with growing internationalization, tips started to grow - while technically still not required, there is now a strong expectancy of some tipping, adding to the confusion about the right amount.
At least, as long the basic service is included in the posted price, one can use the tipping as a feedback instrument. Rarely, I cut the tip to zero when I was very unhappy with the service provided, while I am happy to pay a generous tip, if I thought I had been serviced very well.
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#63I've been to many restaurants here in the UK (and in Europe) where the "service charge" is automatically applied to the bill. You're not expected to tip at these places. Many people don't realise; If you receive bad service, complain and the charge can be either reduced or waived altogether. [edit for clarity]
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#64i'm curious to know if abolishing tipping reduces performance? it seems like there's no reason to put in extra effort if all of them are paid the same and that the worst performer could be paid the same as the best.
Theres also a perverse incentive in that, like a good UI, good service shouldn't actually be noticed, so how does a server make themselves noticed (to receive a tip) while not being noticed?
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#66I've been to many restaurants here in the UK (and in Europe) where the "service charge" is automatically applied to the bill. You're not expected to tip at these places. Many people don't realise; If you receive bad service, complain and the charge can be either reduced or waived altogether. [edit for clarity]
Tipping is required in the U.K. and Europe?
P.S. Nice username. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_Much_Coffee_Man
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#67i'm curious to know if abolishing tipping reduces performance? it seems like there's no reason to put in extra effort if all of them are paid the same and that the worst performer could be paid the same as the best.
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#68I don't see why they can't just keep prices the same and add a "mandatory 20% service charge" at the bottom.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes
It seems crazy to me that you're doing this as a kind of social service for the waiter or waitress, while helping to withhold owed tax revenue that could be used for other people who may be in need of social services.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems crazy to me that you're doing this as a kind of social service for the waiter or waitress, while helping to withhold owed tax revenue that could be used for other people who may be in need of social services.
Why would one prefer to pay for abstract social services extended to people who are TBD instead of rewarding a specific person to whom one is actually grateful?