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most cars don't have clutches these days.
... in america. Most cars sold in Europe are still manuals, although automatics are slowly taking over there, too.
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One pedal driving? How does that work? When you take your foot off the accelerator it brakes? What about the clutch?
EVs work more like an automatic transmission car, but they actually has no gears to change.
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Crazy idea but what about a camera placed in a way that Tesla would capture footage of the brake and accelerator. Store up to X minutes/hours of that would come in helpful when combined with the other data they collect.
Sounds like an unnecessarily complex alternative to just logging the pedal state the same as you would a keypress.
Look, a carpet snagged on pedals a few years ago and that was sufficient to cause a recall.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2011/02/toyota-annou...
That's the level of service I'd expect from any major auto-company. Just because the pedal was down doesn't necessarily mean that we've got driver-error going on here.
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The story is already interesting because Tesla does this, and no other car company seems to. Tesla monitors your driving behavior so that they can save face and blame the driver if things go bad. I don't know of any other car company that does this. Those monitors are installed to protect the company image, not you. Its like you're buying a $100,000 piece of spyware. The car isn't your possession. Its sensor data bel…
I believe you can opt-out of the data sharing if you want, though nobody does. In any event, I doubt Tesla is storing this data just to protect their company image. It may be a nice side benefit, but they have repeatedly said that the data is for training their automatic driving systems.
EVERY SINGLE ONE.
Look, I get not trusting reporters in a lease of a review model (especially when said reporters were rather shady to begin with). But... we're onto customers and the general public now. The fact that Tesla is still engaging in this behavior is concerning to me.
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Sure it's moral - in fact, it's great. The question of morality only arises if there's asymmetric access to the data. In the event of a claim being made by the driver against the company, both sides should have complete access to the logs data to make their case more firmly. What shouldn't happen is ONLY one party being able to inspect the data. But this is unlikely to happen in practice. A lawyer for the driver woul…
> But this is unlikely to happen in practice. A lawyer for the driver would undoubtedly subpoena Tesla for access to the data. And a reasonable judge would probably concur. IANAL and IANAJ, so the latter is a guess. :) So what's the process here? You're going to start suing Tesla so that you hope you can officially subpeona them of the data you don't have access to? Its asymmetric no matter what. The role of these lo…
Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11851817
http://electrek.co/2016/06/06/tesla-model-x-crash-not-at-fau...
No idea about that source but supposedly tesla has made a statement. Similar statement also at this site:
http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-x-crash-result-human-er...
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Considering that the owner's wife said that she tried the brakes but they weren't working I am pretty sure there will be brake usage logs coupled with associated acceleration/deceleration data. That should tell us if the brakes were applied and if they were working. The acceleration logs will also show if the acceleration pedal was engaged at the time or not. I am assuming that an auto acceleration log is different f…
Sure but by the same token in theory if a brake was applied it should work and in this case the car owner is saying it didn't work (hence my video footage comment elsewhere).
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Where did you get your information on the danger of a crash with a tesla vs a regular car? They surpassed every car in collisions tests and the concerns about the battery going up in flames have been fixed since the car was established.
> Where did you get your information on the danger of a crash with a tesla vs a regular car? They surpassed every car in collisions tests and the concerns about the battery going up in flames have been fixed since the car was established. I'm not saying that tesla is not safe, in fact I'm saying quite the opposite. Tesla is a fast car and if not properly handled, all fast cars are dangerous. Since the 75D's aren't de…