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Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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I find it interesting that many of the IT/Engineering/Tech jobs have a high degree of connectivity to elementary/middle school teachers. So the high salaries are helping to balance out the crap salaries.

or the balance of empathy/emotional intelligence

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because that's not tracked as a profession beacuse it's not really one. You are tracked by what you actually learned. People become stay at home mums/dad in the relationship, not before.

Can we talk about your opinion of it not being a profession? I've always noticed that good homemakers share the same qualities of a good professional. Organized, punctual, good communicator, and good manager. They don't earn a paycheck from an employer, but neither do other professions. A home maker simply does not stay at home and watch TV (well, a good one). There is a lot of work behind keeping a home in good stan…

Profession is literally 'a paid occupation' and homemakers aren't paid - so homemaking would be an occupation but not a profession. Furthermore, as the parent mentioned, there aren't really unmarried homemakers, except those who are independently wealthy. Someone may be a physicist or nurse and then _become_ a homemaker.

All this isn't to to say that homemaking isn't challenging or exhausting (it can be), just that it doesn't really qualify as a profession. I don't think the parent poster was implying it wasn't difficult, just that it doesn't fit within the framework of professions.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because that's not tracked as a profession beacuse it's not really one. You are tracked by what you actually learned. People become stay at home mums/dad in the relationship, not before.

> Probably because that's not tracked as a profession beacuse it's not really one. Anyone who thinks being a homemaker is not a profession has no clue what it entails. If you consider a couple as a single unit, it's simply optimizing by specialization. When you look at the cost of baby-sitting/nannies it makes a lot of sense too. Why make $40K extra if I'm going to spend $35K on a nanny? > You are tracked by what you…

> Anyone who thinks being a homemaker is not a profession has no clue what it entails.

Or just has one of the many common definitions of profession, for which homemaker doesn't qualify. E.g., the first definition in most dictionaries tends to be something like this "a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification."

Homemaker is not, generally, a paid occupation, nor is it an occupation that requires prolonged training and a formal qualification.

I think the desire to characterize it as a "profession" is that the social perception of the social value of professions has led to a desire to characterize any vocation with perceived social value as a "profession", and a perception that a judgement that something is not a profession implies that it is not a worthwhile vocation.

> If it doesn't include homemaker as an option then you've excluded all married single income households.

No, it doesn't. Its possible to have a married single-income household where neither partner is a homemaker. (Single income households where homemaking tasks are either shared or contracted out, and the non-income-earning partner devotes their bulk of their time to tasks that are neither income-earning nor homemaking exist -- my perception is that they are more common among higher income groups, but that's not the result of any systematic study.)

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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I guess I should stop using Tinder/OkCupid, and start going to teacher meetings

Its really weird but it does seem like most of my peers either married other people in software development or teachers. No idea why.

Teachers have very, very predictable schedules compared to practically everyone else. They're part of a reliable industry. They have a very clear career progression ahead of them. They have holidays, maternity leave, etc. It's very conducive to marriage and raising kids.

There are two things to consider from that.

1: people who want a stable married-with-kids life are likely to also want a stable, predictable career

2: People who happen to be in a stable, predictable career find it easier to say yes to marriage and kids

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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I guess I should stop using Tinder/OkCupid, and start going to teacher meetings

Its really weird but it does seem like most of my peers either married other people in software development or teachers. No idea why.

I think it's a familiarity bias with the occupation. More women have business degrees than nursing or education [1], but it may not seem so since business degree holders are more dispersed among types of businesses. The link seems to indicate that software developers are just as likely to marry accountants or nurses as teachers.

[1] http://www.collegeatlas.org/top-degrees-by-gender.html

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I can tell most groups seem to marry Elementary school teachers

I think that's a class thing. Auditors, teachers and RNs are all solid middle class, female heavy gigs. Teachers and RNs have the added bonus of an awesome schedule.

Go on a dating site like Match.com, and it seems like 75% of the women are nurses or teachers. Fewer natural dating opportunities in such heavily female professions, I suppose.

Anecdotal, but I have to think really hard to remember a male teacher that wasn't married to one of the other teachers in my school district.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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post #17

Most interesting connection I saw: "Eligibility Interviewers, Government Programs" "Unemployed, with no work experience in last 5 years"

Hah! They must marry their customers.

I think eligibility interviewers are just on the other side of being able to qualify for benefits, for the most part, so it's not _that_ surprising

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Is it me or the visualization is very hard to follow? E.g. if you highlight the 'Dancers and Choreographers' section, it's not at all clear that more female dancers marry male welders.

There also seems to a disproportionate amount of male-male lines, weighted just as heavily as male-female lines. I don't think gay marriage is that prevalent to show up with equal weighting, but my cursory googling didn't turn up the number of gay couples in the US.

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post #21

The usability of the page is pathetic. First, the fonts are too small. If you enlarge then you can't scroll horizontally to see the rest of the titles because the lines get in the way. Didn't anyone think to make the graph clickable instead of just mouse-over. And on top of everything we have the heading of the site that floats and gets in the way. Fucking hell. Someone saw the graph and said, wow let's just use it b…

How do they sleep at night!? /s
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