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CarPlay Is Additive

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by jameshart »

darkwater wrote: post #347
brookst wrote: post #320

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You missed the biggest one: continuity. Start listening to music at home, take it to the car. Start a podcast in the car, finish it in the gym. CarPlay is user-centric, which is why users like it. All these attempts to force people into a device-centric experience make no sense. I spent an hour or two a day, at most, in my car. My phone is within Bluetooth distance every waking moment. Why in the world would I want m…

That can be achieved if you are app-centric as well (i.e. Spotify app in al lthe places), but your point still stand nonetheless.

Does the car support different Spotify accounts on each driver profile? If not then you can say goodbye to personal playlists and favorites and podcast progress…

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by TheTon »

notglossy wrote: post #589

CarPlay is a nightmare for many because its premise only considers 2 options: use CarPlay, don’t use CarPlay. If you want to mix and match features across what your car offers and CarPlay offers (e.g. use Podcasts app but stick with native navigation), the UX starts to breakdown very quickly.

No, this scenario works fine. Car audio (and UI) can interleave with CarPlay. I can put podcasts on my center screen, my car manufacturer's navigation in the driver's screen, and the navigation prompts will duck the podcast and interrupt as appropriate. This isn't hypothetical or hard, my car does exactly this today.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by gchamonlive »

I prefer my WV Up! infotainment system. It's just a dumb radio/media with a factory phone mount. The actual radio has physical buttons to navigate the config and modes and for everything else you use the phone's touch screen. With 6.8" phone screen it's really good.

A good middle ground would be to have physical buttons to interact with the manufacturer interface and the touch screen to interact exclusively with CarPlay

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by nswest23 »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #586
dreamcompiler wrote: post #562

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The Tesla UI is pretty good. It's the only built-in car software I consider good enough to use for navigation. In any other car I use my phone. But Tesla also understands that good software engineers need to be paid Silicon Valley wages. The other car companies hire B- and C-level software engineers and then wonder why their customers prefer to navigate with their phones.

Pretty much every major manufacturer has a bay area satellite office these days. Toyota has a research center in San Ramon and a woven office near the broadcom campus in Palo Alto. GM has an office in SOMA and in mountain view. Ford has an office literally a block away from Tesla HQ. Mercedes used to be near Cariad at moffet field, but now they're down by SJC. Nissan is in Santa Clara. Need I continue? And Tesla is g…

then why is it that their software is a generation ahead?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by Utilera »

The strangest part is that this should be an easy win for car makers. If your native system is better, people will use it. If it isn't, forcing them to use it doesn't make it better, it just makes the car feel worse

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by dalyons »

qsxfthnkp2322 wrote: post #556
sorenjan wrote: post #494

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This is the problem with so many modern companies. Instead of focusing on building great products that their customers will enjoy using, they're trying to build relationships with users. Maybe I'm overthinking things, but to me "user" implies a different more subordinate role where you take what you get, there's no "the customer is always right" when it comes to "users".

Rivian has a monthly premium subscription for their infotainment If they introduced CarPlay they will essentially be taping their wallet shut themselves from their point of view when they need the money But their current infotainment has a lot to be desired and a bunch of dumb bugs. CarPlay would allow me as a customer to have a better experience of their vehicles to sidestep their shit navigation I hear the r2 softw…

Subscription money of $10 mo minus the cost of the cellular data connection and data, which is probably ~$8mo. So, a whopping profit of $24 a year?

I hear this theory a lot but it doesn’t actually make sense given the numbers

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by jameshart »

macintux wrote: post #576
rbanffy wrote: post #367

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I use CarPlay all the time and I almost never use the touchscreen - as you shouldn't while driving. The car has buttons and knobs, on the dash and on the wheel, to call up all sorts of options in the UI. The only time I need to touch the screen is if I want a full screen map (instead of the three-panel usual view).

I'm unconvinced. Navigating the UI via knobs seems much more distracting to me. I have to reach farther in my vehicle, but more importantly, I have to watch the screen anyway to make sure the knob ends up on the right control. Am I missing something?

Voice controls?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by jameshart »

bombcar wrote: post #398
bingo-bongo wrote: post #304

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I’ve had ~15 cars over the past 25 years, different make and models, some really cheap, some fairly expensive. One thing they all have in common: their terrible infotainment UI. I’m sure they are trying and it has gotten slightly better lately - but it’s still not great imho. If they really want to do it better than Apple etc., they seriously need to up their game - and I really wish they would, but I don’t see that…

Car Infotainment Systems vs Built-in TV UI/Apps shittiness FIGHT! It's a real competition, not sure who would take home the gold.

Winner goes through to the semifinal against an in flight seatback entertainment system, but will go down in the final to a WiFi router configuration web interface with default password ‘admin’.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by nickpeterson »

Is the mechanism through which CarPlay/Android Auto works locked down? Could a third party make a competing app for iOS or android that would connect to cars and run on the screen? Or perhaps a special piece of hardware to hook in to older cars?
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