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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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> Also, as a Russian who left Russia I've noticed there's two distinct 20th century Russian diaspora groups in the US. Those who came here prior to the fall of the USSR, and those who came after. In talking with the ones who came after the fall, life wasn't glamorous but got truly unlivable in the wake of the collapse. In talking with the ones who came before the fall, they wanted to make money.

There's a group here, largely those expats kids in my experience, that swears they had things better back in Russia and ravenously consume Russian media. I used to encounter them a lot in Sheepshead Bay.

> I used to encounter them a lot in Sheepshead Bay.

My friend is one but wasn't always like that. He was never critical of Russia or the USA and was pretty quiet until befriending some Russian dude in his apt building during the blackout of hurricane Sandy. Now he frequently criticizes and rants about capitalist USA then sings praise of Russia. We keep telling him to go back but he doesn't. He's unfortunately "that guy" in our group of friends now -_-

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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In the simplest ways also, to "fix" the situation in Iran, potentially a war has to start. To "fix" the situation in Palestine, a war has to stop. That's inherently very different.

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Any possible response to this comment would either be full of lies or an extreme violation of site rules. Well done, nice trap.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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It’s very strange to go “why isn’t the left doing anything about this conflict when they cared so much about Palestine?” My government doesn’t fund Iran.

Your government doesn’t fund Israel, either.

Most Western governments fund Israel. The US funds it the most.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…

How are the regime able to do this? Do a majority if Iranians support them? Too afraid? The only job is the government job? Why choose to partake in the massacre even if you are on Team Ayatollah? Do those guards not consider the people the kill as Iranians?

They have a large, very capillary police-like force that answers to the national government, trained to have no problem with killing people.

The Iranians have been protesting that force in one way or another for more than a decade.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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This is horrific. Iranians/Persians are some of the brightest and warmest people that have a culture spanning back thousands of years. May the young people in Iran persist and overcome this brutal regime of terror.

Unfortunately that history includes nearly perfecting the use of torture thousands of years ago. https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/torture-achaemenid-pe...

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Right... although you wouldn't know it if you took a look at the current Christian right in the US: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/is-empathy-a-sin-some-...

There is some discussion about creating a new term, "Christ-like" to differentiate from the current Christian right. A number of years ago there was a saying WWJD (What Would Jesus Do?) that epitomizes the new Christ-like term.

I have also heard the term "Christ follower".

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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I spoke to a few people living in Iran, and they definitively confirmed that 100+ people died. They obviously don't have the exact number, so that 36,500 figure might be exaggerated, but there are more than enough videos online to verify the 100+ claim if you really want to.

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Again, what am I supposed to do about it? If one lives in one of most western countries, one’s government has sanctioned Iran to the gills. Even the government can do little more, except engage in war. Compare this to Palestine, where direct action and protest is much more tangibly impactful.

European governments could expel Iranian ambassadors as a start.

"More than 36,500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests, making it the deadliest two-day protest massacre in history,"

Too bad that this is also a first time in history, following massacre of protesters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_and_execution_of_Nicolae...

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It’s certainly not -200. I stopped reading after that.

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This is my only comment on this entire subject. Why are you being so defensive? A death toll cannot possibly be negative no matter how defensive you are.
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