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Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by johanyc »

catapart wrote: post #14

Not a great regulatory move, in my opinion. But I really wish ad companies would implement this rule across the board. If you can't sell me on your ad in 5 seconds, it's unlikely you can sell me on your product in 15 or 30 seconds. And if your product is of any interest to me whatsoever, I'm happy to continue watching the ad. I sit through movie trailers and tech ads all the time, even with an option to skip. But I h…

Yeah. I'm happy to watch ads if I'm interested in the product. Sometimes i even want to rewind to see a part i missed but youtube doesnt let me. No idea why

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by 125123wqw1212 »

Note that this is most likely on paper only as they have zero power to enforce this on Youtube / Facebook which are the most popular ads-serving consumer services in the country currently.

The regulation will be enforce on domestic companies only.

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Post by wrsh07 »

tcfhgj wrote: post #451
wrsh07 wrote: post #230

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And what do you think the consequence of that new regulation will be?

Just ban unrequested ads altogether

Do you think YouTube will continue to be available in a country that does this? Or free Spotify?

Is that good? Or bad?

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Post by wolvoleo »

anthonypasq wrote: post #511
wolvoleo wrote: post #386

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No, I think they shouldn't be double dipping. If I pay for premium I want no ads whatsoever. Not for the content creators to sneak some in anyway. And no I don't tend to watch many with sponsor crap in them because they aren't actually very good (think the low-quality crap from LTT etc). The best channels (EEVBlog is one notable one) don't have sponsors at all because they're made for love. What I am not doing is wat…

ok so you actually dont think they should be single dipping because you use ublock origin and sponsorblock?

No but if they weren't double dipping with the sponsors I'd pay for premium.

It's just that as it stands it makes no sense to do so. I still get ads so there's nothing in it for me. And if I use sponsorblock I might as well go the full way.

It's really on YouTube that they have let this situation be created. They should have stopped sponsor segments the moment they arrived.

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Post by wolvoleo »

tpmoney wrote: post #529
master-lincoln wrote: post #188

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There are still tests and reviews and content where people can show products without being paid by the people producing these products.

Even without being paid, unless someone is advertising the product somewhere the reviewer won't know it exists to review. And if the reviewer is being sent free product or solicited directly by the producer, that's still advertising. It may be more trustworthy if the reviewer is strict about not letting the producer have editorial control, but you better believe that the company is sending out free products to review…

It does also happen that people get stuff to review and have to send it back of course.

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Post by foresto »

transcriptase wrote: post #489
xoxxala wrote: post #72

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Mr. Beast on youtube is guilty of that. Matt Parker of Standup Maths fame did an in-depth look at how that works. Whoever came up with that type of progress bar must hate people in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0OU1yJD-c

If you watch him on Joe Rogan’s podcast he gives a full overview of how every single tiny detail down to colors, length of scene cuts, facial expressions, language, total length of videos, time of day for release, thumbnails, sound effects, music is extensively A/B tested to not only optimize for the algorithm but for hijacking people’s attention as well. That weird creepy face with the outline and uncanny smoothing…

It seems we're living a Max Headroom episode.

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Post by flexagoon »

Groxx wrote: post #185
DrewADesign wrote: post #64

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My favorite most annoying ad tactic is the trick slowing down progress bar. It starts off fast making it seem like it’s going to be, say, a ten-second ad so you decide to suffer through it… but progressively slows so you notice at like the 20 second mark you’re only 2/3 of the way through the progress bar, so probably less than halfway done. Murderous rage.

I'm fond of the ones with a fake close button, so tapping it just launches the ad's site. Instant uninstall and 1-star. (Yes, I know it's mostly the ad's fault, but there's no practical way to punish them directly. So force apps to pick better-behaving networks.)

This is usually against ad network rules, so if you're willing to go out of your way a bit, you can screenshot those ads and report directly to the ad network

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Post by tpmoney »

wolvoleo wrote: post #595
tpmoney wrote: post #529

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Even without being paid, unless someone is advertising the product somewhere the reviewer won't know it exists to review. And if the reviewer is being sent free product or solicited directly by the producer, that's still advertising. It may be more trustworthy if the reviewer is strict about not letting the producer have editorial control, but you better believe that the company is sending out free products to review…

It does also happen that people get stuff to review and have to send it back of course.

Sure, but that’s still not free. The company is spending time, money and resources on soliciting the reviews, sending units out, receiving units back and then scrapping or selling those units as refurbs/open box. They’re not spending that money unless they think it’s going to drive sales / awareness. It’s still advertising.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

tossaway0 wrote: post #560
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #538

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> would a ban on selling ad space do the trick? How would you define ad space? > You can self promote, but you can’t pay third parties to do it for you and you can’t sell it as a service An acid test I've found surprisingly powerful is that of the founders promoting the Constitution through pamphleteering. They wrote the pamphlets themselves. The historical record is silent on whether they paid for their printing or…

Someone who prints something for a third party isn’t selling ad space. Everyone could self promote, they just couldn’t contract someone to do it for them. Employees could promote for their employer, but it couldn’t be subcontracted out. And you can’t pay a company to put up your ad on their billboard or their website, etc. Ignoring how this might be enforced, would it be enough to let people express themselves while…

> would it be enough to let people express themselves while cutting out the impact of negative externalities of advertising?

I think it's doable. But I haven't seen the scalpel yet.

In the meantime, we have clean lines we can run up towards. Banning ads (basically, commercial speech) in public space. Banning commercial bulk mail. And banning targeted commercial advertising (beyond the content it sits).

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