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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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I give his tenure as CEO 6 months at most before he's forced out by the board, or resigns for ideological differences. The changing wind that Elon is going to usher in is going to be fundamental and sweeping, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an exodus of employees follow.

What changing wind could Elon Musk usher?

I also don't follow. I get that there is a halo effect around Musk's 'Iron-Man' persona.

Nevertheless, he is still a minority shareholder. How much power can he really have at board level?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

I do think Elon will provide a valuable counter-balance to the current monoculture that drives Twitter. But I do not believe Elon in of himself can really resolve Twitter's ills (by my subjective assessment). Twitter and other social networks are ultimately reflections of parts of humanity. Us humans have our biases and our drives that don't just go away. You can obviously (and should ) tweak the product to incentivi…

I recommend this paper: https://philpapers.org/archive/NGUHTG.pdf or this podcast on the same topic: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/podcasts/transcript-ezra-...

Social media is a mirror in the same way that baseball is a mirror. Individual personalities are tested and the fact we're playing it is because we're human, but the rules of baseball are not the rules of life. When we're playing baseball we're doing something very different from when we're relating to each other or spending time together.

Twitter is a social game, and distorts the behavior of its participants. Its a fun house mirror, not a reflecting pool.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Backing this up with some data, the most common reaction on twitter is: "Elon will improve Twitter by expanding freedom of speech on the platform" https://twitter.com/NarrativesProj/status/151139309757754574...

That's what makes all of this so ironic to me. Social media platforms and their users (especially Facebook) are not left-leaning. That a vast majority of Twitter users feel he will improve it means that the bias is fictional.

I don't know how you got that sentiment from that graphic, which doesn't have jack shit to do with political affiliation.

I will put $100 down right now that if you did a statistically significant, unbiased, controlled, representative sample of verified Twitter users - as in people you can provably show are actual human beings - you'll find the majority are left-leaning.

Oh wait, I don't have to, Pew Research Group already did it...

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-tw...

Facebook is a different animal because more than half the planet uses it, and what we consider "left" or "right" as Americans is dramatically different than what other nations would consider "left" or "right" or "liberal" or "conservative".

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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> His companies compensate engineers below market, does he not? If that's true, those engineers would leave for better jobs. If you think like an economist, the fact that his engineering departments remain fully staffed shows they're paid enough. I'll take that as fact over angry internet rumors about a controversial billionaire.

https://www.levels.fyi/company/Tesla/salaries/ I mean, based on the objective aggregate information we have available, they pay much less than FAANGs. I said nothing about Tesla not being able to keep a staff due to low pay – just that I do not see any indication they are paid "well" compared to what other companies pay. If I worked at Twitter, I would be worried my salary would be frozen and pay/promotion scales re-…

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Backing this up with some data, the most common reaction on twitter is: "Elon will improve Twitter by expanding freedom of speech on the platform" https://twitter.com/NarrativesProj/status/151139309757754574...

That's what makes all of this so ironic to me. Social media platforms and their users (especially Facebook) are not left-leaning. That a vast majority of Twitter users feel he will improve it means that the bias is fictional.

Honest question: have any far left politicians/celebrities/blue checkmark people been banned from twitter?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Huh, wha?

If you're wondering about the neutrality premise. The furthest ~25% on the left and right have an increasingly extreme, partisan, borderline psychotic view of the world that you're either with us or against us. That polarization has become radically more aggressive over the past decade. Just to use a simple example: someone might might say it's not enough to not oppose men becoming women and dominating female swimmin…

So we moderates kill off each half of our crazier cousins and live in moderate harmony!

(this is extreme sarcasm, for those that can't tell)

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Sure, banning users from posting a published news story is "permissive".

Since when is "published" a meaningful quality barrier to content? Any idiot with a WP site can "publish" a "news story". Besides, if I reply to your tweet, "My child just died in a fire." with an article about how fire deaths are among the most painful ways to die, it doesn't really matter much how "published" that "news story" is, it's hateful and has no place on the Internet.

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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It's either this or one of its competitors rises to take them on at some point and we get a bifurcated society where specific companies cater to specific politics. That may be unavoidable anyways. I think people outside the SV bubble (I grew up there, don't live there anymore) don't realize how hated and despised their censorship policies really are. Musk has his pulse on that, so I'm happy to see him step in and sha…

You mean like the news? As an experiment try this for two months. On month 1 - watch only CNN. On month 2 - watch only Fox. Maybe take a 1 week break between both and write down your thoughts on the world... very interesting how it evolves based on what you watch/listen too... From what I hear if you just watched Russian state media it'd be an even more extreme version. The great thing about our free society is you h…

> as I understand it you can't do this in Russia today...

Or Ukraine or many other countries. Not sure why you singled out Russia specifically.

However, if you are just watching corporate media you're not getting the full picture either. CNN and Fox News have very similar opinions on non-culture war issues.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements. In general, he seems to be an active enough user that there’s concerns he will use his new power as a way to shield himself from the consequences of his activity.

>A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements Those people are idiots though. The kid said he would turn off the bot for $50k. You think Elon bought 9% of Twitter to avoid paying $50k?

Its not like he lost that money, twitter stock is up 20%.
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