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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by TameAntelope »

Jtype wrote: post #538
TameAntelope wrote: post #468

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It’s easy to call for change without actually having to build any of it. Odds are zero things change about Twitter’s content policy, as it’s about as permissive as you can get while operating in the US. There’s a lot less sinister intent than one might think at first blush; Twitter wants users to stick around, banning them is a really bad way to do that.

Sure, banning users from posting a published news story is "permissive".

Since when is "published" a meaningful quality barrier to content?

Any idiot with a WP site can "publish" a "news story".

Besides, if I reply to your tweet, "My child just died in a fire." with an article about how fire deaths are among the most painful ways to die, it doesn't really matter much how "published" that "news story" is, it's hateful and has no place on the Internet.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by syshum »

shmde wrote: post #155
memish wrote: post #133

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Who owns the media and big tech now??? It's not poor people! At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Which is good for us poors. Twitter and the national discourse will be objectively better for working class voices as a result. Less so for the gatekeepers and media elite commentariat.

> At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Yes thats exactly why he was willing to shell out 50,000$ to a kid to remove his flight tracking bot. Stop licking his boot.

Offering someone $50K to stop doing something == Free Association and Free Market

Advocating Totalitarian controls via Terms of Service, and/or Government !== Free Association

Come back when it attempts to have Twitter ban this persons account, then you may have a case, offering an monetary incentive for someone to change their behavior is not censorship in any form.

Stop being a tool

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by [deleted] »

AlexandrB wrote: post #479
rayiner wrote: post #420

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Everyone is political. But “woke” people are like the old Christian right. They’re willing to use their control of institutions to prosthelytize their ideology in a way that ordinary liberals or conservatives aren’t.

Conservative states are literally passing laws banning the teaching of radical ideas like "gay people exist". If that's not "prosthelytizing their ideology", I don't know what is.

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by sandworm101 »

eganist wrote: post #505
throwaway5752 wrote: post #493

"For so long as Mr. Musk is serving on the Board and for 90 days thereafter, Mr. Musk will not, either alone or as a member of a group, become the beneficial owner of more than 14.9% of the Company’s common stock outstanding at such time, including for these purposes economic exposure through derivative securities, swaps, or hedging transactions." This is the second line in the linked filing, and something a number o…

> This is the second line in the linked filing, and something a number of people have not read. Not sure it's that it was left unread or if it just doesn't matter. As best as I can tell, it just means he won't overtly threaten the company with a takeover or equivalent because he's been given soft power to influence. My lay reading suggests that Twitter is now basically operating at his whims to keep him from leaving…

>> he won't overtly threaten the company with a takeover or equivalent

Well, he can overtly threaten all he wants. He can begin the process. He can make all the money arrangements and make agreements with other shareholders. He just cannot complete the takeover by actually acquiring more stock (or other instruments) until after 90 days. Imho that isn't a practical limit on threats.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by systemvoltage »

yupper32 wrote: post #523
beeboop wrote: post #152

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How does Elon run his companies any differently than the vast majority of tech companies out there?

He compensates below market and his employees are expected to work harder than big tech companies. He can get away with it at SpaceX because, well, spaaacccceeee! I'm not sure how he gets away with it at Tesla.

They're not slaves. They have choice. In fact, an unending list of jobs available in the tech industry.

Why is it Tesla's / SpaceX fault for being a cool company for many people to work at and they're willing to take a pay cut? It is 100% their choice.

There is absolutely no counter argument here that I can see. I am trying.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by psyc »

streb-lo wrote: post #532
pb7 wrote: post #516

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Since it happens so often, please provide two instances of this.

So accusing someone of being a pedophile once is OK behaviour? Interesting.

Consider the phrasing: “So calling someone ‘pedo guy’ on Twitter once is Ok behavior?” You chose to unpack the facts in a direction chosen by you. A court of law unpacked it in a different direction.

I call this Rhetorical Mischief.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by 99_00 »

justapassenger wrote: post #37
jmkni wrote: post #5

I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

That sounds like a typical corporate butt kissing.

Butt kissing is most effective when it's true.

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Post by ranman »

yupper32 wrote: post #523
beeboop wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does Elon run his companies any differently than the vast majority of tech companies out there?

He compensates below market and his employees are expected to work harder than big tech companies. He can get away with it at SpaceX because, well, spaaacccceeee! I'm not sure how he gets away with it at Tesla.

because the stock grew like crazy and everyone got rich?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by ranman »

paxys wrote: post #528
beeboop wrote: post #152

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How does Elon run his companies any differently than the vast majority of tech companies out there?

They have a culture of overwork and moving fast. I was looking at job postings for SpaceX & Tesla a couple years ago, and every single one of them explicitly mentioned that you will be expected to work more than standard work hours and put in time on weekends, which is very different from all the other companies that stress work life balance. I'm sure it works for a lot of people, but you should be sure of what you a…

I worked at SpaceX. I was well compensated. It was a good time.
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