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Re: Facebook says it has removed promotion of anti-quarantine events

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> It's worth noting that there is a lot of discussion in serious circles (including here on HN) about the balance between too much and not enough with respect to quarantine, lockdown, etc., both in terms of where we are now and what we should do in the near future. The problem is that the "followers" in the "Reopen All The Things(tm)" camp is ASSUMING that you get immunity once you get Covid-19. We do not have inform…

The awful truth, I suspect, is that immunity will be for a limited duration, like the common cold. However, the people who are most likely to die from the virus will mostly die in the first round. Those who live through it will be far more likely to experience it as a rather unpleasant flu. And perhaps life will go on like that. Pure speculation, of course. But, we've never succeeded at a vaccination for a corona vir…

I think total immunity will be a for a limited span-- perhaps long enough to prevent another outbreak for a long time, perhaps only for a moderate time.

But we keep partial immunity to coronaviruses for a long time. Right now it looks like our best estimate of infection fatality rate is 0.3%, and it may very well be a lot less if the disease re-emerges in a few years because past encounters will be protective.

That is, would 229E be pretty damn bad in an immunologically naive population? I think it might.

Re: Facebook says it has removed promotion of anti-quarantine events

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Is that so universally true? I'm thankful right now that I live in Canada where every week—sometimes multiple times a week—measures are added or adjusted in order to prevent anyone from falling through the cracks. Some businesses have faltered or are closing permanently, but many others are receiving substantial support. We're currently beating the projections in Ontario, and while this is not an easy time, every act…

Sure, if the government replaces your livelihood, it becomes much less of an issue. Of course, such measures can only work for a while until things start breaking down. We can do without barbers for quite a while, but the more professions are offline, the worse the accumulated effect is.

I don't think these measures were ever intended to be in effect in perpetuity. They're widely understood to be a stop-gap. It seems like a good strategy to me because it appears to be working. It's not perfect, but it's definitely helping. It's even making me believe in good government. Not perfect, but good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace,_order,_and_good_governm...

Re: Facebook says it has removed promotion of anti-quarantine events

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> they will go and infect many others

Who have the choice themselves on whether to isolate or otherwise

This is not acceptable. It is like saying we should not try to catch serial killers because people can just stay at home.

Re: Facebook says it has removed promotion of anti-quarantine events

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I know that this is a shocking idea, but you can, in extraordinary circumstances, use a variety of government measures, including dipping into reservers to ensure that people don't starve and that businesses aren't forced to lay off people that they will need when businesses restart. Yes, government isn't some omnipotent god but neither is it some helpless pathetic entity that can't sort things out at a time of extra…

> dipping into reservers My assumption is that governments are taking on some sort of debt here.

That assumption is incorrect for sovereign currencies issuers (like the US, UK, Japan). They would just issue bonds, which is not at all like you or I taking out a loan.
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