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Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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As an illustrator, the workflow on the iPad Pro using a tool like Procreate is amazingly simple, quick and portable. Compared to something like my old com tablet, I am much more likely to grab the iPad and pencil and draw, then go to my studio where my computer is setup and draw. Even the difference between wacom/graphics tablet and iPad with the pencil is almost night and day, no lag or parallax on the iPads is a hu…

Interesting. Using a Cintiq can be better than a tablet with some applications ("feels more natural") too. https://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-displays Have you used a Cintiq much? Would be interested in a comparison of that vs the iPad Pro's. :)

The wacoms with bonded glass (everything except the cheap cintiq 16) are better than the ipad but its very close. The ipad is more than good enough, its good.

Meanwhile the portability of the ipad and apps like procreate have made the ipad a very compelling tool for artists.

Most professional digital artists I know of use both a large cintiq in studio and an ipad.

There are a trillion comparisons on youtube. Also a contender (but a smaller size) is the ipad air 3 which also has a bonded glass display.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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This might shed some light as to why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BLgS7m0W94 tl;dr: phone webcams have DMA, laptop webcams are using USB.

This seems like a dubious explanation; you can get quite high-quality external webcams that use USB 2.0. I'd say a more likely (and harder to fix) explanation is that the phone ones can be deeper; laptop ones have to be very slim to fit.

Exactly. You want thinner bezel, slimmer Screen, and the trade off is simply the camera. Unfortunately there doesn't seems to be enough interest in it for Apple to innovate.

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A keyboard, a trackpad, and a display stand. These are not three different devices!

Hah! For those who don't get it, this is an homage to how Steve Jobs first introduced the iPhone. He said (a few times): "An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator... these are NOT three separate devices!"

For us Apple nerds, his voice suddenly pops into your head when you read the sentence.

Cant believe it has been 9 years.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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It does support files on external storage devices now with the USB-C port. It also supports SMB shares, which is great since I keep most of my stuff on a NAS and can access it over my VPN. Developer tools are an obvious weak point, but FWIW I sold my Surface to buy an iPad Pro a few years ago and I'm happier with this. Considering an upgrade from 2016 model (9.7" with lightning) to the new ones. It wouldn't work as m…

Yah.. USB-C, so I carry a dongle with the iPad Pro that I don't have to carry with my Surface Pro. I wouldn't have to buy the dongle cause I already have a great collection of them because I have a USB-C-only MacBook Pro. But I still have bought 0 actual devices that have USB-C. And it's not just external storage devices. It was always such a mess. E.x. with the Camera connection kit on the iPad Pro: - My Canon 5D wo…

I understand your pain but it's worth the switch.

I tried to aggressively go Type C exclusively starting in 2017 and have pretty much been there for about 18 months. There are two devices that need an adaptor which I simply glued onto the cable, but then again a lot of devices have gone completely wireless.

People had the same problem with the 30-pin to lightning transition, ADB to USB type A, the super messy VGA->various kinds of DVI and DisplayPort -> (mostly) HDMI and the like. They've been worth it in the end.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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They actually do that a lot. They usually release A(n)X when there's already an A(n+1) available. Usually, the X version (or in this case, the Z version) is the same architecture as a previous non-letter architecture but with optimized and improved multi-core performance achieved with new components and likely some overclocking. They are also likely optimized to handle workloads differently since they are put in devi…

When the previous duo of iPad Pros was released the current iPhone was using A12 and respectively the iPads had A12X Bionic. iPad Pro is the most powerfull device in their mobile line, it's very starange that the are doing a step backwards with it. My question was rather how A12z compares to A13. They have already explained many times how A(n) compares to A(n)X.

This. It is always A12, then A12X, A13, then A13X.

But they got A12z this time round.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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I believe the older MacBook Pro has an iSight camera, while the newer one has a FaceTime HD one.

So it's hard to find tech-specs, but iSight was branding between 2005 and 2010. The branding changed in 2011 and forward to "FaceTime HD." At that time resolution did get bumped up to 720p, but since a camera's quality can depend on many other things like lens and sensor noise I hate to say for sure but I'm pretty sure 2011 and 2019 laptops all have the same camera. After getting a newer gen MacBook Pro and being ins…

Yeah, they're not great in general :(

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Cmd + . actually acts as Escape key on iPadOS. It’s not a replacement for a physical escape key, but I don’t find it too hard to adopt.

What about on MacOS? The trackbar escape key is super flaky...

Their new models are reverting that design.

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I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

This is why I don't understand how there's even a market for the iPad Pro (outside the Apple superfans). I like iOS, but it seems like if you want to any real work it's an uphill battle, and for the money there are plenty of alternatives.

I really want an iPad Pro purely for the on-screen writing experience, which hasn't been as good on a Surface (in my experience)

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

Ok. That's been the opposite experience of me. I got rid of the Surface Pro because it's a kludge. No matter how long Microsoft worked on touch/pen support to slap onto Windows, it still fails in being a good environment, at least for me. Plus, at the time, the battery life was abysmal. I'm not sure if they ever got better at that with the newer models. AND, no matter how much they played up that fricken kickstand, it was terrible in trying to use it on my lap. But then again, the iPad was the same.

Enter the iPad, which was built from the ground up as a touch interface. but now it looks like they're coming at it from a different directly....a touch interface incorporating mouse/touchpad support.

But, I'm for people using what they want to use. My use/need isn't the same.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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You are missing the forest for the trees. When people talk about app store moderation, they're talking about a moderation team deciding which apps are abusive and which ones aren't. They're not talking about the underlying mechanism of, "there's a system that verifies an app doesn't violate its manifest." The relevant part of the app store that people in this thread are talking about are the decisions about, "should…

IMHO if you had “a Gatekeeper model that worked the exact same way as Android”, then the granularity of the permissions in iOS wouldn’t help you, because developers (and especially malicious developers) would have no incentive to use the fine-grained capabilities. The only reason anyone bothers with the finickyness of capabilities manifests in the first place, is that Apple forces developers to take exactly the capab…

> If nobody has any reason to “only claim what they need”, then why would they?

That's a reasonable question that at first glance seems to have an obvious answer.

And yet, the web works. The web works brilliantly -- the web isn't perfect by any metric, but it is still almost objectively the most secure general-user computing platform that we have today. There are a lot of reasons for that, including just locking down capabilities in general, but where permissions are specifically concerned:

- The current permissions model that platforms including iOS are moving towards is granting permissions piece-meal post-install. Asking for lots of permissions up-front looks a lot more skeezy in this world, which reduces user trust. I particularly respect that iOS pops up reminders of what permissions you've granted apps, I think that's a brilliant UX move, and I wish other platforms would copy it.

- The more sophisticated model that Firefox/Chrome are starting to play with (and that I suspect more platforms are going to adopt in the future) is that apps can't ask for permissions directly, users need to grant them themselves by going out of their way, which helps cut down on people mindlessly clicking OK on everything that pops up and introduces a UX/development cost for apps that want to enable tons of permissions, because they now need to explain to users what to click on.

- The really sophisticated model that people are looking into for stuff like filesystem access is that the app never knows whether or not a permission was granted. If it asks for location, it gets an incorrect answer. If it asks for access to your media files, it gets a blank folder with nothing in it. Under this model, the app is completely isolated by default, and never knows how many permissions the user has granted it, so it never knows whether or not to ask for more of them.

So this is one of those questions that intuitively points towards moderation, but in practice we're starting to learn that with good UX there are a lot of ways to teach ordinary people to be safe, and there are a lot of ways to restrict apps without encouraging users to circumvent those restrictions.

Of course, I don't think it's impossible that app store moderation helps security. I mean, certainly moderation helps on some level. I suspect it doesn't help as much as people assume, just based on what moderation looks like across the entire industry right now. But I'm not going to die on that hill.

I just don't think people should blanketly assume that's the case. MacOS also has a better security track record than Windows even when you're not running Gatekeeper apps, and even though MacOS doesn't force apps to go through a moderator. Any user can bypass Gatekeeper, but through a combination of multiple factors, MacOS still has less malware than Windows/Android.

People look at iOS and Android and make very strong claims based on two environments that are substantially different on multiple security axes: in terms of sandboxing, in terms of market share, in terms of userbase demographics. There's a lot of stuff at play here, and there are multiple ways that platforms (including iOS) are trying to create the economics you're talking about. Even iOS is not all-in on moderation, even iOS is trying to train its users at least to some degree to think about their own security.

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