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Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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The Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro will be available for purchase in May for $299 (US) for the 11-inch iPad Pro and $349 (US) for the 12.9-inch iPad Pro Wow. This must be one hell of a keyboard..

I have a $100+ Logitech keyboard for my existing iPad. It supports only one position; is not backlit; and has no integrated trackpad.

There's definitely an Apple tax here, but it's also a premium item, so that pricing doesn't seem ridiculous to me. Also, the existing Bluetooth options will still work, and the Apple Smart Folio keyboard is still an option at a lower price point.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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The front facing camera is seriously neglected. They keep on adding more powerful/fancy cameras to the rear that people likely under-use in the common case, while the front camera that is commonly used for work, video conferencing, selfies, etc remains on the wrong edge and is under-powered. It is almost farcical with the new keyboard setting the top to the non-camera edge. The front facing camera should be the premi…

I think you are misjudging the "common case". The front camera is 7MP (close to 4K) and records 1080p. I don't know of any videoconferencing software that uses more than 1080p, and there's always massive compression applied anyways which would defeat image improvements. The quality is more than enough. There's also very little practical issue with it being on the side when in landscape mode. It just means that your e…

There is a lot more to quality than megapixels. What I care about for the front-facing camera is the sensor size and lens aperture. I want more light hitting the sensor for cleaner images.

I've had to do meetings and interviews using the front-facing camera in environments where I don't have control over the lighting and the results were not great.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Apple, please make the ipadOS eco system developer friendly. I'd buy it instantly. If Visual Studio Code was available there, that'd be amazing. There is some projects[1] going on but using some non-viable workaround [1] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/70764

This is a device that doesn't support other browser rendering engines or even toy compilers, long way to go before something like VSCode could be possible, a product that let's you trivially slipstream in any renderer/script engine/compiler you want at a single click. Plus would it really be an "iPad" with you sacrifice the whole security model to allow debugging?

"toy compilers"

FYI, there are at least two. The Swift playgrounds app.

And Pythonista, which is actually quite a nice IDE for small projects, and even lets you build GUIs.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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At what point on this trajectory will MacBook Pro merge with iPad Pro? When macOS and iPadOS converge?

I hope that day never occurs. iPadOS is like a toy compared to macOS, although recent macOS has got more locked down (no directories in root, separate OS partition with incorrect total size reporting etc.).

When the 2 converge I am outta here.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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The front facing camera is seriously neglected. They keep on adding more powerful/fancy cameras to the rear that people likely under-use in the common case, while the front camera that is commonly used for work, video conferencing, selfies, etc remains on the wrong edge and is under-powered. It is almost farcical with the new keyboard setting the top to the non-camera edge. The front facing camera should be the premi…

Just wait until you try the front facing camera on a MacBook (in my case, the Air from 2019). It's so horrible compared to any recent iDevice from the last years. I don't understand why they don't improve them to match the mobile quality at least.

This might shed some light as to why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BLgS7m0W94

tl;dr: phone webcams have DMA, laptop webcams are using USB.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect. It is not the standard desktop version of Photoshop, it is something quite inferior and there are many online articles discussing the differences.

It’s the same codebase with a different UI on top of it.

You just made my point for me.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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The front facing camera is seriously neglected. They keep on adding more powerful/fancy cameras to the rear that people likely under-use in the common case, while the front camera that is commonly used for work, video conferencing, selfies, etc remains on the wrong edge and is under-powered. It is almost farcical with the new keyboard setting the top to the non-camera edge. The front facing camera should be the premi…

I think you are misjudging the "common case". The front camera is 7MP (close to 4K) and records 1080p. I don't know of any videoconferencing software that uses more than 1080p, and there's always massive compression applied anyways which would defeat image improvements. The quality is more than enough. There's also very little practical issue with it being on the side when in landscape mode. It just means that your e…

There is a dramatic difference in how flattering the angle of a photo is. Portraits should always be taken minimally at eye level, never below. Having the camera any lower makes people look uglier on video or selfies.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Zero interest until I can: - use a native build of Firefox without webkit - have low-latency audio - do network troubleshooting with MAC address access - use VOIP with proper background operation & notification Sorry, Apple, but you created the greatest software/hardware ecosystem in history and then screwed the pooch so badly that you lost me as a customer and a developer.

Oh wow, that's a well managed list of expectations... Do you realise who the iPad is made for and why? Your network troubleshooting with MAC access requirements represents Just get the right tools for your job (that exist for decades, and have been slimmed to down to portable, few mm devices knows as laptops) and don't expect Apple to suddenly make iPad do everything that your job requires you to do. Apple lost you a…

You don't get why people who have full control over their current Pro computers wouldn't want to move to a locked down, walled in garden of a "Pro" device?

The vast, vast majority of the hundreds of millions of customers they gained with the iPad aren't doing any work that is even remotely similar to what can be done on a general purpose OS. And furthermore, even if they can do some of the same work - they can't do it with nearly the same efficiency.

The vast majority of iPad users aren't even doing any work on their iPads. They're consuming.

Apple can keep trying to make the iPad appeal to users who need full control over their computer, but it ain't gonna happen until they actually give us full control.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to do a double take when I saw you’d written ‘VSCode’. Are you serious? We should be starting with XCode, I mean, given all the rules and restrictions on the platform, it’ll be shocking enough when Apple finally gets XCode into action. As for VSCode, I’m not even sure what you’d be compiling onto the device, as Swift or Obj-C in XCode is the only way to end up with a .ipa you can run...

But why does that have to be how it is? Why shouldnt I be able to compile c++ programs, go programs, etc? needing an ipa is an arbitrary restriction dev wise Also you can run js, node, etc just fine right now on an iPad (but not node and that sucks)

My issue is you’re asking for Pepsi before Coke has been invented, if that’s an effective metaphor?

It’s like, slow down, let’s get Apple’s own native solution in there before we get a third party one?

If not only to make sure it’s done right?

Currently the App Store’s restriction that it can’t run arbitrary code is the best one.

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