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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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I often forget how browsing the web looks for most people. Can't understand why they put up with it, or do they just think that it's part and parcel of the internet to have every page look like a slot machine from hell?

I currently don’t use ad blockers. The only time I used ad blockers was when a previous employer specifically asked me to, when using a company machine. > Can't understand why they put up with it To see which (rare) sites don’t put up a million ads and actually care about the reading experience. A lot of the top-listed sites on HN are small blogs without ads (or in the case of danluu.com or lwn.net - without almost a…

The situation has been manufactured by the advertising industry such that the individual's rational response, blocking ads for multiple reasons, hurts the web in the long run. At the end, it will be said, "it was the ad blockers' faults", not "there were too many ads + tracking systems and ads could contain malware"

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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The level of mental gymnastics in this thread denying the extent to which companies like Google (and their puppets like Mozilla) control the internet is too damn high. Fortunately if projects like Ladybird gain enough momentum, websites might be forced to cater to it. Time will tell.

You know you can make a browser based on Firefox's core and don't need to make a new one from scratch that'll never get past Cloudflare?

> You know you can make a browser based on Firefox's core and don't need to make a new one from scratch that'll never get past Cloudflare?

Under some definitions, the browser IS the core. You are bound at a fundamental level to your parent if you build on someone else's foundations. Firefox is probably a great one to do it but worth knowing that someone else owns the land upon which you stand.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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> Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They could save themselves the trouble if Firefox simply baked in its own ad-blocking, but since Google basically owns them, we all know that will never happen. Ladybird browser is going to be awesome.

Firefox started shipping adblock-rust in March (Brave's built in adblocker). It's not properly wired up in the UI yet but you can enable it and add filter lists in about:config.

I am cynical about this move - this could be used by them to cripple support for uBlock Origin eventually, to keep Google happy.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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> Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They could save themselves the trouble if Firefox simply baked in its own ad-blocking, but since Google basically owns them, we all know that will never happen. Ladybird browser is going to be awesome.

>since Google basically owns them Google has been trying to kill them since they moved the Chrome team into the same building as the now defunct SF office. (Apparently they offered people a lot of money? There are some words I could use to describe people who do things they think are unethical for cash I'll leave unsaid.)

Can you share your source for this?

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Websites already can barely be assed to care about supporting Firefox users, doing adblocking by default is a great way to get websites to start putting up banners that say "our website does not work with your browser, please switch to Chrome" en-masse. And Mozilla did develop anti-fingerprinting tech, but they can't enable it by default because it breaks lots of websites and when a website doesn't work they're not g…

The level of mental gymnastics in this thread denying the extent to which companies like Google (and their puppets like Mozilla) control the internet is too damn high. Fortunately if projects like Ladybird gain enough momentum, websites might be forced to cater to it. Time will tell.

> Fortunately if projects like Ladybird gain enough momentum, websites might be forced to cater to it. Time will tell.

Ladybird has corporate sponsors too. Sponsorship is influence. Obviously, the more sponsorships you have the less influence an individual one have but it is worth knowing.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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> Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They could save themselves the trouble if Firefox simply baked in its own ad-blocking, but since Google basically owns them, we all know that will never happen. Ladybird browser is going to be awesome.

If Firefox baked in ad blocking, they would have to then deal with the financial incentive to make it worse. Sponsored ads, 'good' ads, government announcements, election propaganda... there is a slippery slope they are better off not getting on. A trusted 3rd party from the wider community seems a better option in many ways. The alternative is starting a web browser with a manifesto welded on that essentially states…

Both the Brave browser, and Vivaldi browser have some kind of built-in adblocking API. The makers of Brave browser even pay some of the adblocking list curators.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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For example it doesn't block youtube adverts Pretty sure that's not true. I don't see any YT adverts when using Brave, and I don't have any extensions installed.

I don't know what to tell you... It most definitely does not block youtube adverts for me and never had / did... Also, I found Ublock origin updates less reliable / frequent on Brave. Since switching zero issues.

Perhaps you were disabling their adblocker by trying to use ublock? In general there's no reason for additional plugins - they also have native custom filters, scriptlets, and so on.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Peter Theil was an angel investor in Brave. That alone is all the reason privacy-minded users need to avoid it.

Because Peter Thiel gave them some money, there's some secret backdoor code that's sending all your information to Palantir?

Sometimes you make decisions based on principle and future risk. Brave Software is a for-profit company that funded its start through Peter Thiel.

Even if fine in the present, you cannot guarantee me the future of a Thiel-funded, VC-owned firm.

Mozilla, in comparison, is a mature, non-profit with substantial goodwill and operational transparency.

Everything past these details are just noise.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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I mean sure, but there's a bit of a difference between "sells data to no one really knows who" and "sells data to no one really knows who AND PALANTIR" which the original commenter seem to be flagging as a problem.

"no one really knows who" is probably also Palantir or someone who resells to Palantir.

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