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Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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I'm pissed off that Android took over the power button to activate their AI agent bullshit.

Search your settings for Power Button, Side Button, or whatever. You should be able to change the setting for a long press.

Changing it back doesn't change the fact that it was changed for AI-maxxing

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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We are adding AI features to our product and being very careful to disguise them and make it not “feel” like AI. Our customer base about 70% can’t stand AI, 20% doesn’t care, and 10% thinks it’s the greatest thing in the world.

Why would you add features you know 70% of your users would hate? The fact that you have to hide them from your users because of this should probably be a sign to reconsider.

Profit, legal demands, and incompetence comes to mind as potential reasons.

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

#583

My laptop has a microsoft copilot key built into it. It is hardware mapped to a hotkey that inputs win+shift+f23, instead of just being the right ctrl key. Why would anyone want this?

Why would Microsoft want their product logo forced front and center and easy to accidentally trigger in their OS that they also force on people?

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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I wouldn’t over index in the artist side of things. A lot of people don’t really think about that at all, just look at how readily Spotify was adopted despite taking a ton of money away from artists. But “AI is coming for your job” is very resonant.

spotify still pays artists. it's just a shitty deal. most big ai will never compensate anyone

Spotify pays artists the smallest amount they can possibly get away with without getting sued. Which is a tiny amount. Spotify is owned by music industry giants who needed a new money-grabbing scheme when the older schemes of the 70s-90s failed in the internet era.

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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We are adding AI features to our product and being very careful to disguise them and make it not “feel” like AI. Our customer base about 70% can’t stand AI, 20% doesn’t care, and 10% thinks it’s the greatest thing in the world.

Why would you add features you know 70% of your users would hate? The fact that you have to hide them from your users because of this should probably be a sign to reconsider.

Because the users only hate them if they know they're AI, otherwise they love them

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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They're proud of their quarterly results, not of the product, that they couldn't care less about. They're not Steve Jobs types. They're glorified bean counters.

For many of them, the quarterly results are the product. Thanks to Milton Friedman, far too much of the manager class now believe that the end goal of their job is to make shareholders rich, and the fact that they have to do that by making a product or providing a service is something along the lines of a necessary evil.

lol this is a half truth.

Say I start a firm and I want to destroy the incumbent through innovation but can’t pay a very high wage - will the best people who are needed to compete and beat said incumbent forgo a lower salary for the mission?

I don’t know. And that’s part of the problem - you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

#587

>No customer or user wakes up and says, ‘I hope I get to talk to a chat bot or an AI agent today This is so true. I led the implementation of an AI customer service agent and even though management thinks it’s a great success the metrics tell a totally different story. Our customers hated it. I haven’t seen anything in tech that is hated more. Before you think we did a bad job with our solution, I can tell you we wen…

I immediately skip all youtube ads that are AI generated, and I can easily spot them. Not just that, I am planning to actively avoid those brands that are doing this. A small way to send a message that this form of AI sucks. In addition, I make it a point to compliment humans that assist me in customer support, and ask them to tell their management that they need to hire more humans.

> I immediately skip all youtube ads that are AI generated

Why not skip all of them?

> I can easily spot them

You don't know which ones you can't spot.

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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A million album sales generates $2-3m for the artist under a typical label deal. 150,000,000 streams typically generates $560k _before_ the label cut. Your posts make clear that you're a wildly immoral person -- not just because you repeatedly lie and distort to defend your position -- but the crux of your argument is "artists had a mediocre deal, so it is fine that the new deal is dramatically worse". There's no way…

> but the crux of your argument is "artists had a mediocre deal, so it is fine that the new deal is dramatically worse". No it's not. I'm saying that artists have always had a shit deal, singling out Spotify doesn't help the systematic problems. I don't use Spotify, I purchase via Bandcamp but that's also because long term its cheaper for me. > Your posts make clear that you're a wildly immoral person I'm immoral bec…

"Is it really much different to how much artists got from radio?" is a weird way of stating that artists should be paid more.

If you actually want to defend artists... I suggest _not_ drawing equivalence between the old (bad) deal, and the new (much worse) deal.

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

#589

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Hallmark built a brand on creating generic messages in card.

You're supposed to write an additional message inside the card...

This is an incredible comment, and now I can just imagine the dismay of people receiving a card from the parent poster.

Re: Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff

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Downloading artists' songs is not equivalent to people using AI to generate sounds/images and claiming they are an artist. I really don't have a problem with people using AI to generate sounds/images for their own personal enjoyment, but taking what it generates and then telling others that you "made this" or are an artist is deception. > artists shouldn’t expect to be paid for their digital output The issue is the n…

> people using AI to generate sounds/images and claiming they are an artist. > but taking what it generates and then telling others that you "made this" or are an artist is deception. I think there's a fundamental problem with this line of argument, which is that it's naive elitism that's been historically leveraged since the 20th century at minimum. "Your music was made on a computer? That's not real music! All you…

Elitism doesn't logically counter an argument. If you're yearning for the skill that makes you elite, then work to get it. If you want the output of skill without the work, you're fake, and it will show in your output. There's many that don't care and you can make money off of them. The smart will see being on the wrong side of this as being exploited. No one can really stop you from exploiting the un-smart, but everyone can make a decision to not be un-smart.

> "Your music was made on a computer? That's not real music! All you do is push some buttons!"

Non sequitur/red herring. I'll explain with an example.

In the late 80's or early 90's, Emu Systems made a device called the Proteus One. It's basically the guts of a keyboard without the keyboard, you bring your own MIDI keyboard.

It will definitely make sounds if you push buttons (keys) on your attached keyboard. If you compose these sounds, pushing those keys, you're an artist.

The unit has a "Demo Mode" where it will play a stored song. If you push this button, the sound you cause this unit to make is not artistry. Specifically, you're not an artist for having pushed this button.

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