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Honest question: what do you mean?
You pay inflated prices for the car and then they still steal and sell your data. This isn't hard to understand, same thing smart TV mfg do.
Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
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Yeah, I'm a little suspicious about that claim. Bluetooth tethering is a thing, actually predates wifi tethering. Though it's not enabled unless you enable Personal Hotspot in your phone settings (and Android requires it to be enabled separately). CarPlay complicates things, as it only uses bluetooth to pair, then it switches to using a wifi network (as bluetooth doesn't have anywhere near enough bandwidth). Maybe Ap…
My iPhone automatically shares the internet without enabling hotspot with my Toyota via Bluetooth. It happens automatically. I just start the car, and it happens. And CarPlay is not involved, since there is no such thing in my car.
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#583I have a few year old Volkswagen. I'm security conscious and made sure to disable all the data collection I could find in the companion app, turn off remote access services, dig through the infotainment to turn off what I could, etc. Last year I requested a Carfax on it, and one of the fields in the request was current mileage. I entered an estimate like 75000 miles. On form submission, that field failed validation w…
One trick is to buy a car from the end of the 3G era, because at least in America those networks don’t even operate anymore. Car is nerfed in terms of phoning home without you having to do much at all.
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>Surely collecting telemetry on nearly every mile you drive could never be a sensible use of time or money, right? What kind of insanity is that? They're not collecting in depth telemetry on every mile you drive, as you drive it. They're literally just every couple of days sending the number on the odometer up to their server. Most carmakers do it simply so they can sell you oil changes
> They're not collecting in depth telemetry on every mile you drive, as you drive it. I mean, yes and no. It is most likely that the majority of carmakers are not collecting detailed telemetry. But we know from data breaches that some cars collect pretty detailed information. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a63306050/exposed-vw-data-...
https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-...
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Get a determined ex-partner who knows a lot about you and wants to harm you or kidnap your children. For most people this represents the greatest immediate risk with this kind of data.
How will they get access to this data? Hax into Toyota to track this one specific Rav4?
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The Graphene community maintains a list of compatible banking apps. Another possibility is to keep an old/cheap, stock Android phone at home with WiFi only for apps like this.
Doesn’t that defeat the point of using an app at all? Use a computer at that point.
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Is android auto still available with Graphene? AA is genuinely one of the few life-changing features introduced in the last decade that I'd prefer not to go without.
Mostly works, some stuff doesn't. The worst thing that doesn't work is alternative maps (e.g. OsmAnd).
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>That requires a cell connection. Technically it only requires an antenna that can listen on the LTE band (or even GSM). Trilaterating based on cell towers with a hackRF or other SDR is a fun exercise.
Do you happen to live in an area where cell towers broadcast their location? (Here in the States, they don't do that. The best we get to have are crowd-sourced maps that are generally held behind someone else's lock and key.)
I'm in Canada, I don't think they broadcast their GPS coordinates. But most of their locations are publicly available, such as: https://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/cancellsites.html?lat=51...