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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by mark_l_watson »

IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

I am on Google's $20/month plan, and I usually get about three half-hour coding sessions a week with AntiGravity using the Claude models. The limit using Gemini Pro models is much higher. I am retired so Google's $20 plan is sufficient for me, but I understand that people who are still working would need higher limits.

I am also on a $10/month plan with Nous Research for supplying open models for their open source Hermes Agent. I run Hermes inside a container, on a dedicated VPS as a coding agent for complex tasks and so far I find the $10/month plan is enough for about five to ten major tasks a month. I think it is also a good deal.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by mark_l_watson »

chamomeal wrote: post #563
IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

If I could get the equivalent of GPT-4 running locally, that would cover like 95% of what I need an LLM for. Tweak this dockerfile, gimme a bash script. I guess the context probably isn’t sufficient for the agent stuff, but I’m sure more context-efficient harnesses will be coming down the line

I have an old Mac Mini with 32G of integrated RAM, and the following works for me for small local code changes:

ollama launch claude --model qwen3.6:35b-a3b-nvfp4

In addition to not having an integrated web search tool, one drawback is that it runs more slowly than using cloud servers. I find myself asking for a code or documentation change, and then spending two minutes on my deck getting fresh air waiting for a slower response. When using a fast cloud service I can be a coding slave, glued to my computer. Still, I like running local when I can!

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by michaelcampbell »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #299
maxall4 wrote: post #210

I have a Claude Pro tier subscription; Claude Code, as of right now, is still functional for me. If Anthropic does boot Pro-tier users off Claude Code, I will be cancelling my subscription.

Indeed. Codex on $20/m is incredibly usable. Lots of value. My anthropic subscription keeps being worth less and less.

> Codex on $20/m is incredibly usable.

And how long do you think that will last if A\ does this?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by michaelcampbell »

theshrike79 wrote: post #513
dgb23 wrote: post #470

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If you are looking at open models, check out Pi, as its very extensible and comes with a sane default. Maybe even roll your own. Most harnesses (claude, codex, opencode etc.) assume that you use a cloud model. There’s no sense of optimization or finer control.

I've been running pi.dev + codex (GPT-5.4) for a long time for my workhorse stuff. Actually tried caveman mode yesterday and it made everything SO MUCH BETTER. GPT-5.4 has a habit of being extremely verbose to a ridiculous degree, it's like it's writing a report for a CTO or something and padding everything as much as possible to sound smart. With caveman it just gives me lists of stuff in a compact format. Perfect.

let's be clear(er) here that you like caveman's format and output, so that's one value of "better". I've seen at least a few (n < 10, so there's that) tests on token use and for THAT value of "better" it's not much different.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by inetknght »

cycomanic wrote: post #572
inetknght wrote: post #347

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Solution: don't A/B test your users. A/B testing people without their informed consent is immoral, unethical, and should be illegal.

So you're saying software should never change or you're happy with A testing, but not A/B testing

> So you're saying software should never change

Generally, yes. Make your software better first before releasing it and you won't need to make changes to it.

Want a new feature that you didn't have before? That's a new software product.

> or you're happy with A testing, but not A/B testing

I'm happy with testing when the user has explicitly opted-in for it.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by eleventen »

bsder wrote: post #466
eleventen wrote: post #136

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Matches my experience very well. All the goodwill earned from taking a stand against the DoD seemingly forgotten in a month. Coincidentally, I canceled my pro subscription and got set up with OpenCode and OpenRouter last night.

Got any good pointers to documentation for making the transition? I'd like to pull the trigger for OpenCode and OpenRouter as well.

I just installed it and continued about my business. I don't have a carefully tuned claude code setup. It has some skills, some CLAUDE.md files, and not much else.

I did also migrate an app from Claude SDK to Pydantic AI to get off claude API pricing. https://pydantic.dev/docs/ai/overview/

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by inetknght »

estomagordo wrote: post #476
inetknght wrote: post #432

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What do you think of things you purchased changing over time into something you didn't purchase?

That's literally any software subscription ever.

So you're perfectly okay with repeatedly paying for a shit product, getting shat on by the company in the form of being tested for feedback, and "maybe" getting a better product in the future. Mind you, that "better" isn't necessarily better for you but more explicitly better for the company you're paying.

Sounds like someone who doesn't care about being a sheep. Or maybe someone whose salary depends on having sheep.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by michaelcampbell »

dv_dt wrote: post #546
zozbot234 wrote: post #71

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Never mind GLM and Kimi, even GPT 5.4 offers a great plan for $20/mo. Even if it gets increased rate limits after May, it's still quite likely that casual users won't be hitting them on a regular basis.

openai is too toxic for many

And I'm sure their bean counters are watching this VERY closely; if it doesn't sink A\ outright, there's no reason they won't up their prices too.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by [deleted] »

IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by michaelcampbell »

Larrikin wrote: post #13

Why is management at Anthropic trying so hard to ruin their reputation with developers? I missed the OpenClaw hype but it was something that kept me excited about my yearly subscription. It makes no sense to do one of the higher tier plans unless they are directly generating you money.

> Why is management at Anthropic trying so hard to ruin their reputation with developers?

They follow the money, like every other company.

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