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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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The real question is: why is this on hacker news with 4 digits upvotes and why has Gaza been on Hacker News non-stop while there's been hardly any coverage of the islamist republic of Iran slaughtering tens of thousands of unarmed civilians in a matter of days.

And I already know that although there's been very little coverage so far of what's happened in Iran, where islamists have been executing people inside hospitals, there's going to be non-stop coverage of Iran if the US decides to strike Iran to topple the islamist regime / prevent them from getting the atomic bomb. Then we'll have detective work to find innocents killed and upvoting of stories about how the evil west is committing war crimes on innocent islamists.

But tens of thousands of unarmed civilians --who want sharia law to stop and who are protesting for a regime change-- being executed by an islamist regime?

Very little coverage on HN.

There's an ongoing inquiry led by several members or parliament in the UK about mass rapes that happened on UK soil, complete with a cover-up attempt by the government, involvement of police officers, as much, in some cities, as 30% of all men from one particular community involved, descriptions of killings (according to the testimony of some victims), of victims having their tongue nailed to the table and being ass-raped by several men, etc.

And no coverage on HN.

But the IDF firing for four minutes on the Toyota Hilux'es from Gaza aid workers: more than 1000 upvotes.

The double standards here are just insane.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy > It is prohibited to kill, injure or capture an adversary by resort to perfidy… The following acts are examples of perfidy… The feigning of civilian, non-combatant status... (Assassinating a paralyzed patient in a hospital is also not typically - ahem - kosher. Even if you're in uniform!)

As it stands, the Geneva convention only applies to acts when both countries are signatories, or one is, and the other follows the convention (which Hamas unfortunately does not): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions#Common_Arti...

Is there another treaty which proscribes perfidy, which Israel has ratified?

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Keep in mind that these powerful men believe that Jewish people coming back to Israel is the first step of the Apocalypse, and the return of Christ. It is a death cult quite literally trying to bring about the end of the world, and they're ruling the world. Also, they are insanely antisemitic and believe most Jews will go to hell. https://religiondispatches.org/2025/12/04/mike-huckabee-trie...

> Also, they are insanely antisemitic and believe most Jews will go to hell. A good chunk of them are insanely pro-semitic as well, as they adopt the dual covenant belief that Jews will actually also go to heaven as well as Christians. I've actually never met anyone that adhered to the pro-zionist dispensationalist view that fully thought out the implied consequences, then proceeded to harbor a personal hatred of Jew…

I'd really like to get stats on how many evangelicals believe in this "dual covenant" vs how many follow scripture and legitimately believe that Jesus will send all Jews to hell to be tortured forever when he comes back.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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The arab states offered a peace plan in 2002 that would include full recognition in exchange of an end of the occupation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative At some point it becomes obvious that Israel (under the current government and political climate) doesn't want peace.

In 2000 Israel offered the Palestinians what is essentially the two state solution everyone keeps talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit At some point it becomes obvious the Palestinians (under their current government and political climate) doesn't want peace. Wikipedia is not a good source here. There was never a sincere offer accepted by all Palestinians that acknowledged Israel's righ…

This proposal?

> Most sources agree, that under Israel's final proposal, the Temple Mount (including Al-Aqsa) would remain under Israeli sovereignty. Israel would also take most of the rest of East Jerusalem, while Palestinians would get some parts too. Israel would annex 8% or 13.5% of the West Bank, and would maintain a military of an additional 6–12% of the West Bank for an unspecified period of time (sometimes called a "long term lease"). According to some sources, Israel would also retain its settlement blocks in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian state would not be contiguous and the West Bank would be split into 2 or 3 sections. Finally, Israel would control Palestinian airspace.

How is that a sovereign state?

> Specifically the sticky point here is the right of return which means that Israel ceases to exist.

If you see Jewish supremacy as a core element of Israeli statehood, then I guess, yes. There are other concepts though, like a one-state solution, which would solve that.

> Either way it's not up to the Arab states to make peace here, it's up to the Palestinians.

The arab states have leverage though, and in this situation, they tried to use it.

I honestly don't see how Palestinians would be able to make peace if the result is more creeping settlements like in the west bank. What is the outlook here? Where would they live?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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The team involved in this analysis, Forensic Architecture, have a pretty decent youtube channel showing how they do things: https://www.youtube.com/@forensicarchitecture1967/videos

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can you provide that history? the best I can find is a single story where they incorrectly reported four children as dead, which I can only really find being discussed in reddit comments. surely if they have a 'documented history of being wrong' you're referring to something more material?

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Don’t forget the “all they have to do is return the hostages” line

> Don’t forget the “all they have to do is return the hostages” line So there's zero link whatsoever between Hamas executing 1200 civilians on Oct 7th, taking 200 hostages, and the following war (and war crimes) of Israel? Israel literally unilaterally began a war and committed war crimes without any act of aggression? And from the moment 200 hostages had been taken, many of whom died in captivity, everything was car…

The issue isn't whether or not Israel started it. It's the genocide they did once it started.

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can you provide that history? the best I can find is a single story where they incorrectly reported four children as dead, which I can only really find being discussed in reddit comments. surely if they have a 'documented history of being wrong' you're referring to something more material?

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can you provide that history? the best I can find is a single story where they incorrectly reported four children as dead, which I can only really find being discussed in reddit comments. surely if they have a 'documented history of being wrong' you're referring to something more material?

This seems pretty damning.

https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/forensic-architecture/

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

There is an alternate World Peace Force that just got started recently because I believe, as regimes change, the UN will audit what happened. The issue is there will now be another international body that will argue the other way. It’s not exactly 3d chess, but, it is chess. Purchase of US TikTok (chess moves).

Never heard (and couldn't find anything) about it. That "Board of Peace" you're most likely referring to is nothing more than your usual Trump grift - each country willing to join has to pay 1 billion $, and there have been 25 countries declaring their intent to join.

Make up the math yourself, even if there will be legitimate expenses for PMCs, reconstruction and god knows what else, even skimming off 5% of that sum will still be a lot of money for Trump. And it would not be the first time he launches a multi-billion grift / money laundering scheme, remember $TRUMP and $MELANIA and I've probably forgotten about the other coins?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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can you provide that history? the best I can find is a single story where they incorrectly reported four children as dead, which I can only really find being discussed in reddit comments. surely if they have a 'documented history of being wrong' you're referring to something more material?

This seems pretty damning. https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/forensic-architecture/

I skimmed through that page but did not notice anything remotely negative.
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