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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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I just wanna say it's nice to see more people finally waking up and smelling the ashes. I can only hope in the future this genocide will be studied to better understand the main points of failure to not repeat such a widely event covered event.

The problem is that both sides lie flagrantly with such frequency that very few claims about the war can be taken at face value.

On the other side there was the famous "hospital bombing" news event early in the war where it was claimed that 500 people were killed, and then within a couple of hours it became obvious that the explosion was caused by a misfiring Hamas rocket, with video from multiple angles of the failure, that it hit an empty parking lot in front of the hospital and only blew out the windows and burnt a few cars, and that no more than a handful of people had been killed.

And also the repeated claims that Israel were lying about the tunnels under Gaza Hospitals, and make videos of one such strike (a bunker buster penetrating the parking lot just outside the entrance) go viral, only for Hamas to later announce that one of the replacement leaders for Sinwar had been killed in that strike, and for excavation to find the bunkers / tunnel network underneath that very hospital.

As well as, earlier in the war, a Hamas bunker w/ data center equipment directly underneath the UNRWA HQ in Gaza.

None of that justifies genuine instances of war crimes and atrocities that Israel may have committed, but there's a reason why people tune out some of the extreme claims that fly around.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#182
post #149

Disgusted by this, I hope that the good people of Israel realize what their hideous regime is doing and stop it. I know for sure that

The problem is majority of Israeli citizens think the government isn't doing enough.

Cue the citizens that protested to stop the aid trucks from going into Gaza. The citizens that protested because the Israeli military arrested (after a lot of international pressure) soldiers that were caught raping Palestinian prisoners. They were protesting for the right of soldiers to continue to rape.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Full report: https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

Forensic Architecture is a truly remarkable work. If anybody is unfamiliar with Eyal Weizman, I would highly recommend checking out more of his work. Including the 2014 series Rebel Architecture and some of his talks. He recently did a presentation called "Conditions of Life Calculated" at the David Graeber Memorial Lecture at CIIS that I think gives a lot of insight into why the work being done at Forensic Architecture is so remarkable. He also talks about his work with David Wengrow and the Nebelivka Hypothesis based on novel archeology of ancient Ukrainian cities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfD1y7WZLpM

alternative FE: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bfD1y7WZLpM

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#184
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Mike Huckabee said yesterday that all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates should be taken by Israel. That would involve a cleansing of hundreds of millions of people.

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> He immediately qualified it

Did he qualify it by indicating his claim is based on centuries old religious documents that are not agreed to by any majority of the Earth's population?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#185
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any posts linked to the IDF committing crimes are automatically flagged on this site (and others). Many bots are at play here.

Its not automatic due to bot activity. It is from people actively suppressing stories that don't want other people to see. This is discernible by watching how long it takes stories like these to reach a flagged state on the new submissions page. It is further evident by watching which comments within those submissions get flagged based upon their upvotes and visibility.

> on the new submissions page

What if they only act once it reaches the front page?

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not at all an uncommon scenario to have to deal with in war, especially asymmetrical conflicts. IMO, Israel stepped very clearly over the line, repeatedly, in how they handled it, but the parent post is a pretty reasonable summary of the considerations.

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We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. You can't attack others like this here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are.

Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#187

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

I don't know why you're using the past tense here, I was still trying to talk some sense into these people barely two days ago. It's hopeless at this point.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#188

I just wanna say it's nice to see more people finally waking up and smelling the ashes. I can only hope in the future this genocide will be studied to better understand the main points of failure to not repeat such a widely event covered event.

It's gonna happen again and again and again until the end of humanity.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#189
post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You always have plenty of excuses when you get called out. Looking the other way while bot armies mass downvote pro Palestine / anti ICE / anti PayPal mafia content is complicity. I’m sure you have the data to suss out what is obvious to anyone watching these threads in real time.

Think about what you are saying for a moment. Why would "bot armies" come to Hacker News of all places to flag pro-Palestine articles? Don't you think it's a much more reasonable conclusion that people read the site guidelines[1], which clearly say that political posts are off-topic, and then flagged for that reason instead? There are a million places to discuss politics online. If I wanted to discuss politics, I wou…

In 2026 I don't for one second think it organized inauthentic activity is implausible. I think in fact it's probably pretty extensive these days, though I'm not especially sure about penetration of HN in particular. But everything from marketing to state actors to organized political actors to anarchic but politically motivated online groups are mobilized to influence online forums and I think these phenomena are reasonably well characterized by academic research. It can also be people who aren't organized but abuse flagging out of political commitments.

I also don't think your read of it as an organic outcome of a post that obviously violates guidelines is the natural conclusion here, I actually think that interpretation strains credulity more. Where I agree is that I don't think moderators are being heavy-handed on issues like this, but I do think high level political events do merit attention at least once in a while and I don't think the HN pattern has been toward oversaturation.

And in terms of things that make this story unique, I think it's the highest standard of specificity I've ever seen in reporting of this kind, it's using impressive technological reconstruction of the scene, it's actually quite unlike typical news reporting on the topic and it's hosted on a platform that was YC-incubated, and I think DropSite News is in an ascendant moment as a major news breaker. There's lots to talk about here imo.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

#190

Mike Huckabee said yesterday that all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates should be taken by Israel. That would involve a cleansing of hundreds of millions of people.

Keep in mind that these powerful men believe that Jewish people coming back to Israel is the first step of the Apocalypse, and the return of Christ. It is a death cult quite literally trying to bring about the end of the world, and they're ruling the world. Also, they are insanely antisemitic and believe most Jews will go to hell.

https://religiondispatches.org/2025/12/04/mike-huckabee-trie...

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