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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

Arainach wrote: post #554
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #537

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> My point is that the OP doesn't >lack awareness of other forms of capital, they're asserting that those aren't sufficient on their own OP said "it should be paid" because "it is a job", and so the rejection of that claim is two-fold: 1) Uncertainty in the expected value of payment does not change the fact that it's payment, 2) Payment in units other than dollars is still payment. If I get paid in bitcoins, the bitc…

> Payment in units other than dollars is still payment. If I get paid in bitcoins, the bitcoin market could completely collapse before I cash out. It's not different than that. I can't pay my rent or my server bills in "prestige". Entirely different.

I can't pay my rent or server bills in "bitcoins". I need to leverage my bitcoins in some way to get "dollars" that I can then pay my bills with. Non-monetary payment is still payment. Rare pokémon cards are payment too.

Also, in fact, people get things that otherwise cost money all the time based on prestige.

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Post by munk-a »

dgabriel wrote: post #578
munk-a wrote: post #562

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I genuinely doubt the users with a hundred thousand or more licenses asked for Copilot 365 Suite.

It's the easiest possible way for large entities to jump on the AI bandwagon. They're definitely asking for it.

Large entities asked Microsoft to stop simply bundling Copilot with all those services and instead relabel the services so that their usage could be counted as AI usage in their quarterly report whether or not they actually engage with the AI features?

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Post by rolph »

otikik wrote: post #471
mixmastamyk wrote: post #465

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I don’t agree with this newer idea that has arisen that FOSS authors are “victims.” It’s up to you to set boundaries (or prices) and communicate them, like an adult. If one is still rude and entitled then ban them from the repo, or let people fork, but not before looking in the mirror first and reflecting at your own behavior. (I’m trying to imagine folks painting xfree86 maintainers as victims back in the day when x…

I think "we will ban and publicly shame you if you waste our time" is a very clear and adult boundary.

i remember my first time being a chanop on IRC.

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Post by tom_m »

mixedbit wrote: post #156

Long time ago Sourceforge and then GitHub promoted into the current default the model of open source distribution which is not sustainable and I doubt it is something that the founding fathers of Free Software/Open Source had in mind. Open source licenses are about freedom of using and modifying software. The movement grew out of frustration that commercial software cannot be freely improved and fixed by the user to…

Totally agree. The expectations around what an OSS project should - or even must - have, do, and accommodate is absolutely insane. It boggles my mind sometimes as someone who grew up on OSS. I still contribute OSS and maintain some (small) projects, but I certainly don't feel compelled to support people. I often license MIT. People are grown ups, they can go fix their own issues.

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Post by SoftTalker »

boca_honey wrote: post #539
snowmobile wrote: post #485

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> This is software support, it is a job, it should be paid. What's stopping any open source maintainer from charging for their work?

Irrelevance. The moment you paywall a project, it’s a death sentence. Unless you have a unique and highly sought-after product (top 1%), someone else will just make a free alternative.

If you have just thrown the code out there, in case someone can use it, then who cares? If it's not something you intend to spend more time on, what difference does it make?

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Post by mixmastamyk »

wtallis wrote: post #546
mixmastamyk wrote: post #475

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It could be a childish overreaction. See this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46718635 As always it depends on the circumstances, but should default to quietly closing with WONTFIX. Others have said Daniel is typically helpful and respectful so there we go.

What you linked to is not really evidence , just an unsubstantiated allegation. Over the top public shaming is something that should be pretty easy to provide direct evidence of. When Linus Torvalds does it, it gets repeatedly brought up in forums like this for many years.

I have no reason to believe it is a lie, and it sounds plausible. A 'public shaming' should be a last resort is my assertion, and I stand by it.

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Post by forty »

bluGill wrote: post #255
com wrote: post #201

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Could you expand on the other problems with Europe other than hiring and firing laws?

Senior/staff type engineers are not a union position so great people refuse promotions and responsibility because they don't want to leave the union. Thus they won't mentor juniors, and other things that you need great engineers for. (At least that is how the union people I work with in Europe are, there are other unions with different rules) There is probably more.

Like siblings comments, I would be really interested to know to which country and union you are referring to. In France it's certainly not true (I have a very senior engineering role and I am in a union and it never was an issue, and anyway, the percentage of unionized engineers here is so low that even if that was true, it would hardly be noticeable)

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Post by gcr »

munk-a wrote: post #561
1-more wrote: post #534

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All we need to do is create Kalshi contracts! Users bet that a fix won't be created for Issue 123 by date XYZ, developers take the other side of the contract and then do the best kind of insider trading: changing the facts on the ground. We did it!

And a few weeks into that arbitrage traders will catch wind and start betting on the more likely bug closures and then the devs that fix the bug will end up owing money!

Then, the people who actually want the fix will bet it back up so the dev is incentivized to fix it!

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Post by carlosjobim »

Rooster61 wrote: post #551
chowells wrote: post #540

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Users matter a ton to windows. Specifically, the users with a hundred thousand or more licenses. Their unhappiness threatens Windows' profits in a meaningful way. Why do you think all the new secure boot and TPM features were added to Windows 11? All that work wasn't free to implement. But big businesses really want that degree of secure fleet management, and they're the customers who matter. So going back to the GP…

I think it's clear the source comment was referencing end users. It's patently obvious at this point that a large number of people who directly use Windows are frustrated with it, and perceive it to be degrading rather than improving over time.

A corporate end user isn't a customer. The customer is the corporate department of purchases. What I mean in my original comment is that if you as an end user purchase software, then you will be listened to by developers.

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Post by yesb »

bluGill wrote: post #183
freakynit wrote: post #153

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Avoid middlemen in India.. sorry for the word, but they are the biggest leechers. We hate them too here. India is filled with small one-room service-based companies(the middlemens') that hire interns, for ZERO pay, make them work 12-14 hour days under extremely "humiliating" conditions and then when it comes to giving them internship completion certificate, they demand huge sums of money just to release them... think…

The good engineers in india know their value and get it. My company has offices in india because you have to manage them yourself not use middlemen. You can train the locals to be great managers (at least some). wages for good people in india are worse similar people in the us, but often high than in europe. But there are other problems with europe and so it can be the better deal.

> The good engineers in india know their value and get it.

The job market is not that efficient anywhere, especially India. Lots of people work their way up from crappy jobs to good ones, just like in the US.

>My company has offices in india because you have to manage them yourself not use middlemen. You can train the locals to be great managers (at least some).

"some members of this primitive tribe can be taught our sophisticated ways"

The issue with middlemen is they are basically labor arbitrageurs and have an incentive to hire the cheapest people possible and inflate their credentials/abilities. Same thing happens with onshore consulting firms.

>wages for good people in india are worse similar people in the us, but often high than in europe.

"Often higher than Europe" is a stretch. Typical big co with an India office pays maybe 20-30k USD per year for an engineer. And that is a good job relatively speaking. Top tech companies pay more but they also pay more in Europe

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