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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by tarsinge »

pjc50 wrote: post #234
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

That's basically it. The Chinese government views the rest of the world through Hobbesian self interest, but in the late 20th century financial way. They want your money, but lawfully. The US has turned into something much more vindictive and unpredictable, including threatening to invade Canada.

To me there is an even more important point than economics and geopolitics: the Chinese government is thinking about the long term sustainability of its population, and given how large it is it makes quite aligned with the rest of the world. Environment, health, education, science, etc. when comparing the trajectory and future plans of China and the US it is quite telling. Here are a few excerpts, guess if they come from Project 2025 or Xi Jinping 14 commitments:

- Adopting new science-based ideas for "innovative, coordinated, green, open and shared development".

- Improving people's livelihood and well-being is the primary goal of development

- Coexisting well with nature with "energy conservation and environmental protection" policies and "contribute to global ecological safety".

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by notahacker »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #580
asdff wrote: post #514

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14% of the US elected trump.

For the rest of the world, this number is a complete irrelevance. The purpose of a system is what it does - and the system in question today is the US electoral system. That's what "Other countries only see that the US elected Trump" means.

Yeah. Also not an edge case where an unpopular candidate sneaks in by virtue of deadlocked opponents and quirks of electoral math, or a case where voters thought they were getting a moderate who then pivoted in a different direction. Trump's been open about his belief that trade is a zero sum game he's going to win by crushing other economies with tariffs, his contempt for Western democracies and his admiration for Putin for several years, the corruption isn't exactly hidden and even the Greenland nonsense isn't new. It won him a plurality of votes because most of his base was enthusiastic about his approach and the rest didn't mind.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by csomar »

coredog64 wrote: post #405
justonceokay wrote: post #118

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Agreed, that’s exactly what i did. But I wonder how much of that culture is because the new cheap Chinese cars aren’t here. If all you have in town is a target, that’s where people will shop. If you open up a goodwill there might be some handwringing and “I would never” rhetoric. But many people will go to the goodwill even if they don’t admit it.

Having previously owned a Chinese car (Great Wall H5, bought new), I'm on the fence about buying Chinese cars. Initially it was a great car -- lots of features and they used high quality OEM parts (e.g. a Mitsubishi engine). However, I found that it didn't hold up well* and was missing some of the touches that come from engineering not coming from a car culture. As one example, the tensioner for the accessory belt wa…

Chinese non-EVs never had a good reputation. The take-off really happened only with EVs as China had the edge in batteries which is the thing that matters most on an EV.

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Post by bdelmas »

joquarky wrote: post #510
mathgradthrow wrote: post #374

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Please stop. This is not reddit.

I have been on HN for a long time and unfortunately since at least the last 5 years there are some Reddit culture that have been creeping into it…

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Post by tomhow »

NewUser76312 wrote: post #218
nik282000 wrote: post #53

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Please don't make sweeping claims about what HN “is”.

The HN is a large group of people with a range of views that maps to a normal distribution on most topics, with a slight skew to left-libertarianism. It's common for people to notice "too much" of what they dislike on HN, and then to think the site is dominated by that thing.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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Post by slumberlust »

pixl97 wrote: post #213
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

That first link is a back button capturer.

I didn't have any issues. Running FF w/ UblockO and Privacy Badger.

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Post by sebastiennight »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #216
thesh4d0w wrote: post #96

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25 years?! Hardly https://www.brokerlink.ca/blog/how-long-do-cars-last-in-cana... > In 2020, the Automotive Industries Association of Canada (AIA Canada) reported the average age of Canadian vehicles was 9.7 years, though many industry experts believe that number is closer to 10.5 years today.

> One final factor that can impact how long your car lasts is good, old-fashioned luck. Unfortunately, luck is one factor completely out of your control. You have control over the way you drive, but not the way others drive. Even if you are a defensive driving expert, you can still find yourself involved in a car accident. So the numbers are calculated including traffic collisions in the life span calculation. I wond…

I would say they are the same question if you expect to always replace the car at its end of life. I don't see the distinction you're making.

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Post by sebastiennight »

bgirard wrote: post #75
Retric wrote: post #57

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Cars last ~25 years, 49,000 * 25 = 1.2 million Chinese EV’s on the road in a steady state. Not such as huge shift in total, but EV’s are still a small percentage of total vehicle sales in Canada.

~25 years isn't the average when you account for accidents, rust, and useful economic life of a car. We had 200+ car crashes due to weather in a single day this week in Waterloo, Ontario.

This argument is akin to "80 years definitely can't be the average life expectancy. The number must not be taking premature death into account ; I hear about teens dying all the time"

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Post by estimator7292 »

freedomben wrote: post #400
choppypoofart wrote: post #227

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As an American I'm rooting for everyone else these days. Good for Canada. I hope the EU builds stronger trade with China too and America gets left in the cold to whither and die. Trump, Vance, Miller, Noem, Musk, Bezos all of them just forgotten about and completely irrelevant to the rest of the world.

You realize there are a lot people (who aren't in the administration and didn't vote for them) that would be significantly hurt if all that happened. These people are your family, your friends, your neighbors, your coworkers. You hate Trump so much that you'd prefer to see all those people suffer than have him succeed? I strongly disagree with most of what Trump says and does, but I can't root for an outcome that wou…

We're already at the point where the president's secret police are throwing flashbang grenades into cars full of kids.

You have already lost. We are far past the problems you're worried about. The worst case is already here. It's happening now.

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Post by sebastiennight »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #471
mikkupikku wrote: post #466

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I'm not saying that it's trolling, I do think they genuinely want Greenland at least. I'm saying MAGA people, the portion of the voting public which actually support the administration, think it's trolling. The level of genuine support for it is virtually zero. That's the reason it hasn't already been done. I hope I'm not talking to a wall here, because I already clearly explained this above: "most magas I talk to tr…

I don't know what to tell someone who says ACTIVE, ONGOING, OFFICIAL NEGOTIATIONS that left the foreign country (who thought we were meme'ing until they met with our OFFICIALS) in tears, are just memes. Meaning to or not you are running defense for it, as news coverage/sane people have done continuously for Trump with the 'it's just Trump being Trump'. Don't do that. Don't let them do that. This is the United State P…

Repeating yourself in ever-increasing proportions of uppercase words is not achieving the intent you're hoping for.

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> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

> Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized.

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