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According to this source he’s accused in non-cooperating. He’s not accused of terrorism, drug, or slaving directly. Very interesting to see where it will all go. I don’t understand how they’re going to convince French judges that he’s guilty for not being able to decrypt chats that he has no keys for…
Until the phone number is disconnected completely from the account I am certain these message services are either lying or honeypots. You can have end to end encryption without a phone number. To require it means you're opening up possibilities of State and location tracking.
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Telegram encryption is off by default and is a joke compared to Signal and others. This has nothing to do with encryption. I could list a dozen E2E encrypted things in common use that are all legal and online. It has nothing to do with ordinary sorts of “bad” content either like hate speech or crypto scams or whatever. All of that can be found in abundance in many places, all of which are still online. This is about…
CEO getting arrested does not mean telegram will go down. Direct involvement with scams? You got to be kidding me. This guy is worth 15 billion USD, he does need to do anything. It's about lack of cooperation in censoring content.
Durov's exile is also somewhat tenuous: https://tjournal.ru/tech/52954-durov-back-in-ussr https://lenta.ru/news/2017/03/20/durov/
This is sort of forgotten now but there was the time where they censored the Smart Voting bot.
I don't think going after Durov personally is justified, and the charges should just be contempt of court if anything. But I don't trust him.
A most likely outcome now is that a deal will be made to avoid jail time and he'll let EU do the backdoors or whatever they were asking politely first. Telegram has also tried to distance itself from TON crypto token, but it is so obvious how it still serves the original Durov's vision and controlled by a team of founders (aka initial token holders), now proofing their stakes for a supposedly decentralized blockchain…
They have de-emphasized the built in token and payment features, and Mobilecoin has tanked in value, but it’s still there and still works and nobody has been even detained over it, much less prosecuted.
> Telegram offers end-to-end encrypted messaging […]
Yes, just like McDonalds offers salads and other healthy food options.
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If he intentionally cooperated with criminals then it is one thing. But if someone posted something illegal, and nobody reported this, then it obviously is not Durov's fault. If you are too lazy to report illegal content then you should arrest yourselves first.
It is his fault when his site is full of CSAM and he refuses to take it down
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If he intentionally cooperated with criminals then it is one thing. But if someone posted something illegal, and nobody reported this, then it obviously is not Durov's fault. If you are too lazy to report illegal content then you should arrest yourselves first.
Basically as he did not provide access to the encrypted messages and communication in Telegram, they accused him for supporting the criminals. That's all to it. It is basically the part of the current politics in EU where they are trying to force access to all encrypted traffic across devices.
Since they’re not, this doesn’t seem much different from e.g. an email provider refusing some court access to somebody’s mail archive (i.e. a very bad idea if your executives ever want to set foot in that country).
I’m really having a very hard time finding much sympathy for an operation that kept endangering users by spreading misinformation about its own security model, while at the same time building a jurisdiction-hopping warrant evasion machine to protect data they arguably shouldn’t even have if that security model were accurate.
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So you endorse governments from the middle-east being in their right to delete anything they see as "illegal" because they are blasphemous for example?
There is a large spectrum between total anarchy and totalitarian regime, so in the same way there is a spectrum in free speech.
(And btw, I'm unaware of anything that exists that is a 'spectrum' apart from the electromagnetic spectrum. To have the quality of being a spectrum, the subject must continuously span a 1-dimensional space. It's a way overused metaphor, in my opinion, especially for political positions which are anything but 1-dimensional.)
We changed the URL from https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/info-tf1-lci-le-... to an article in English. If there's a better article in English, we can change it again.
Maybe it's best to keep the original one. I think everyone here knows how to use Google Translate or ChatGPT.