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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by sanderjd »

ThrowAway1922A wrote: post #574
sanderjd wrote: post #174

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Humanity is mostly good, it just isn't universally good. Providing services that rely on "universally good" to avoid being dominated by the tiny but horrible minority is always a disaster.

> Humanity is mostly good I don't believe there is any evidence to back this up whatsoever. People are compelled to be "good" by society and laws, nothing more. Humanity is fundamentally bad, but reined in by a handful of powerful people and organizations.

Society is an important part of humanity. And if humans were "fundamentally bad", it would be unlikely, statistically, for there to be a handful of powerful people compelled to rein in those bad impulses, rather than amplify them.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by anonym29 »

Aerbil313 wrote: post #562
anonym29 wrote: post #445

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This is really the unfortunate truth. >90% of global ISP's not only collect but also sell netflow metadata commercially. Nanosecond timestamps, packet sizes, source IPs, destination IP's. Doesn't matter what VPN provider you use, whether you're using Tor, how many residential proxies you're routing through via a complex proxychains config... commercial entities can correlate virtually all of it. Team Cymru is one suc…

Hell. Is that amount of global correlation even possible? What if I route through 7 countries? Surely the data of every single ISP on earth cannot be collected in the hands of a single entity? Btw I2P provides imho decent amount of protection for timing and packet sniffing attacks.

You are correct that not every single ISP sells this data, but for reference, back when Team Cymru's 'Pure Signal Recon' product was advertised under the name 'Augury', Team Cymru claimed that data sources included "90% of global ISPs". They currently claim to be ingesting and processing neflow metadata from over 200 billion (with a b) connections per DAY.

So in theory, yes, route through enough ISP's, and you may eventually hit one along the way who isn't selling that data.

That said, to my knowledge, no ISPs are required to disclose whether or not they sell metadata, and as profit-oriented corporations, have no incentive to be honest about that if asked.

So it's something of a gamble to assume you can definitely find a path through n ISPs where at least one of them does not sell netflow metadata.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by voakbasda »

10g1k wrote: post #442

Ok, so if one is guilty of transmitting or carrying illegal content merely through providing the medium of transmission, wouldn't that mean the ISPs involved, and the owners of the telephone cables, are just as guilty? Wouldn't any postman, and for example the USPS, be guilty if a private individual posted something illegal?

Absolutely, if they applied the laws evenly. Which they don’t. Ever.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by burtekd »

techsupporter wrote: post #218
burtekd wrote: post #67

Can someone explain the unrevokable legacy IP addresses?

Before the current regional Internet registry system (ARIN, RIPE, LACNIC, AfriNIC, APNIC) began, organizations (and some individuals) were "given" IP addresses by emailing IANA or Jon Postel directly. Assignments that predate the RIRs are called "legacy" assignments and are, theoretically, not subject to the RIR system because those who received those addresses only agreed to the terms as they existed at the time. Th…

Thanks. The "unrevokable" part sounded fishy, but I get it now.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by CatWChainsaw »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #368
tamimio wrote: post #99

>By law they were right as the law only protected registered companies, So basically to protect yourself running an exit node, register a company, preferably offshore or not within X jurisdiction.

The more I learn the more I realise that this has been the case for a long time. Protections for companies are greater, and create more hurdles for law enforcement, than protections for individuals.

Corporations have more human rights than humans do!

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by dudeinjapan »

mschuster91 wrote: post #197
sudosysgen wrote: post #170

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I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. The context of his bragging about corrupt officials was on why his illegal casinos and sex trafficking operations didn't have any problems (while he himself never directly admitted to it, some of his associates tweeted about beating a "girlfriend" who wanted to stop doing webcame shows, and he heavily implies it at time when t…

> I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. For what it's worth, I do. The shit he and others of his ilk teach to young, vulnerable men is inspiring a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder. In Germany, we call such persons "geistige Brandstifter" for a reason. They may not light a fire on their own - in general the…

Come on that's ridiculous, I can't imagine any German would use the power of his oratory to get a large number of other people to do terrible things.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by throwaway290 »

Sterm wrote: post #479
dlivingston wrote: post #470

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Would a VPN not have sufficed as well? Tor seems like overkill for what you're describing.

How does one pay a VPN when your country is under sanctions?

Get someone to sell you some euro and mail it to Mullvad.
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