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You quite obviously can. For what idea can you not find a person with Black skin who supports it? You've got Black centre-rightists like me, Far Rightists like Clarence Thomas, Barack Obama in the middle, and quite a range of voices on the Left - I'll pick Ta-Nehisi Coates as a very talented example over there.
There is more to life than a left/right spectrum.
I wish that Twitter - or some other social network - would experiment with the type of moderation seen on HN. Some would maybe call it heavy handed but I think of HN as a place that is mercifully relatively free of trolling, outrage culture, political bullshit and other toxic behaviors. In my experience there's no place like HN on the internet, and that's due I suspect to having a highly professional moderator (@dang…
HN is pretty much like any subreddit. And there is a line of prevailing thought that you can't go against.
If you are exposed to things on Twitter that are tweeted by people not personally known to you, IMHO you are using Twitter incorrectly. I have no idea why anyone gives a damn what the content moderation policies might be. Speaking for my own account I have never once seen anything said by Trump, Kanye, the pillow guy, any neo nazis, any anti-vaxxers, or anything like that. In what way are people using Twitter that ma…
But look at the mass shooter Dylan Roof, among others. They targeted minorities and were solely radicalized in online forums according to their manifestos. Or, look at the strain on hospitals that anti-vaxxers put us through. These people were partly influenced by online misinformation.
Concerns about speech in the age of social media have little to do with A's speech impacting person B. It's A's speech influencing person X, Y and Z which then has an unpredictable negative impact on person B.
This wasn't a big problem 15 years ago before social media. It's a new problem and many people haven't updated their paradigm given the new environment we're now in.
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On the other hand, I’ve reported posts for using racial slurs (you know the one) and for calling for genocide … and been cheerfully told they didn’t break any rules but that I can block the user if my feelings were hurt. These sites aren’t moderated ideologically, they’re moderated randomly
And really, random moderation is inevitable at scale. It's always going to be a judgment call made by different people in different moods. You can spend more money to reduce the std deviation, and spend less while increasing it, but you can't eliminate the randomness.
I don't expect moderation to be 100% consistent or 100% perfect, but now it just seems like such a random unpredictable crapshoot that it's pretty broken IMO.
I wish that Twitter - or some other social network - would experiment with the type of moderation seen on HN. Some would maybe call it heavy handed but I think of HN as a place that is mercifully relatively free of trolling, outrage culture, political bullshit and other toxic behaviors. In my experience there's no place like HN on the internet, and that's due I suspect to having a highly professional moderator (@dang…
The moderation and thoughtful approach to community is undoubtedly the best I have seen on the Internet.
It's not for everyone, but it is for me, which is why I refresh the page more times than any other page during the course of the day.
I can't imagine another community that isn't specialist getting close to be honest.
But I would love it if the rest of the Internet were as intellectually curious - this is the core of HN.
I got a 7 day ban for a tweet that included “political suicide pact” as an idiom. I then got permanently banned for including the line, “sending their children to die in Ukraine” in a tweet. The “appeal” button causes me to get a denied email within one minute. This tells me no humans are in the loop on any of this. I don’t think these tweets were controversial or require any diversity of viewpoints. They just requir…
Twitter ignored multiple reports of personal threats directed at me specifically (involving concentration camps and general death threats, etc.) "This tweet doesn't violate Twitter rules." People I didn't know, who I had zero negative interactions with before. That was way before Musk. You just can't have human moderation at that scale. They have to brainstorm how to prevent these tweets in the first place, rather th…
oh you definitely can. It's just not remotely cost effective and would ruin the bottom line of any tech company.
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I'm Jewish (feel free to believe me or not) and I disagree. I choose to ignore the overt bigotry and focus on addressing the underlying distrust. What he said represents quite common black nationalist views and were espoused by most Black Power activists in the 60s. Those views are still highly relevant in the black community today, due to things like this[0], promoted by popular thinkers like Prof. James Small. Yes,…
> I believe the proper response is to make the sports and music contracts transparent and re-do them so they don't screw over black talent Why would you assume there's anything wrong with the contracts? He has the burden of proof and he hasn't shown it. Kanye believes he is being victimized by everyone . It's typical narcissist behavior. When someone says that everyone is an asshole, then they're probably the asshole…
Kanye made specific points that the contracts are unfair, with 'talent' not being paid fairly, and having their creative freedom restricted. He also argues that control over distribution is essential, and black people are underrepresented both as record label owners, and as distributors, therefore leading to a huge power imbalance. All those facts are true without needing to go into the 'Jewish' stuff.
People who focus on that controversy are helping these scum-of-the-earth industries survive for longer than they should. Artists should own their output. They need managers and agents, but those should be employees and contractors, not "owners".
I personally don't care to psychoanalyze Kanye, it's none of my business and none of yours. He has objectively been victimized, and became successful in spite of it. I empathize with him and hope what he points out will be resolved.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3gmjw/bad-deals-are-baked-i...
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55366694
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/music-industry...
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HN still suffers from what I call the "Everyone is an idiot but me" mentality. There is also a bit of outrage from time to time about small things. But the fact that it is the worst that happens here is saying a lot though. HN really is very well moderated and the guidelines are concise, reasonable, and simple to understand. It really helps that HN has a narrow set of topics. No idea how this could possibly scale to…
HN doesn't scale because at the end of the day we can fall back to tech and moderate everything else out of existence. Politics poof gone. Celebrities poof gone. Sports poof gone. Religion poof gone. HN simply doesn't have to deal with the above in a general manner which removes a massive number of issues.
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I agree with this, but I would emphasize something you glossed over, which is that the target is a "public figure." It's normative to be cruel to "public figures" in ways that would be totally unacceptable in any normal interpersonal relationship. I personally think that's fucked up, but it really is normative. So singling out e.g. cruelty specifically about trans people's gender presentation seems targeted and polit…
This is a perspective thing. But I just don't see that. I mean, sure, there are Internet Yahoos everywhere who run around calling people Nazis and whatnot. But do you have any examples of major abuse directed by big accounts with big audiences (i.e. the ones that attract the censors' attention) that should have been banned but weren't? The Bee went way out on a limb with that article as I see it. And they got banned.…
> What's the difference between Donald Trump and a worm? One of them is a slimy, loathsome creature incapable of complex thought; the other one actually shows up when it rains.
I'm claiming that most people would think that it's totally okay to say that about Donald Trump in public, even though it's an absurdly mean thing to say. (I am sure I could find similar jokes about Joe Biden, too.) I don't think that this would be deleted from Twitter if people reported it. But I also don't think it's really much different from what the Bee wrote. I think people would treat the Bee's article as different mainly if they think that being trans is a special category that is taboo to be cruel about.
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Twitter ignored multiple reports of personal threats directed at me specifically (involving concentration camps and general death threats, etc.) "This tweet doesn't violate Twitter rules." People I didn't know, who I had zero negative interactions with before. That was way before Musk. You just can't have human moderation at that scale. They have to brainstorm how to prevent these tweets in the first place, rather th…
"You just can't have human moderation at that scale" oh you definitely can. It's just not remotely cost effective and would ruin the bottom line of any tech company.