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> It kills by preventing people from demanding better healthcare. If you're American, this is the most "throwing stones in a glass house" accusation to make about another country.
United States is above China in life expectancy averages. My impression was that the healthcare here is very expensive, but not bad. Besides, US does not prevent people from demanding better.
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This was an easier both sides-ism to get away a decade ago. It stretches credulity today.
Not really - they differ in rhetorics, but not in things that matter. Democrats hadn’t denounced any part of religious fundamentalism, for example.
> Democrats hadn’t denounced any part of religious fundamentalism
This is a baffling assertion that takes about ten seconds to debunk. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-prayer-breakfast-obama-conde...
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Iraq Invasion is the USA today
No? We finally had a president that hasn't started a new war (trump) and we are on track to having a president that hasn't started a new war and has withdrawn troops from one war. Things are changing.
They're just saving up for next year's big surprise.
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#584TikTok is the most successful espionage operation of the 21st century so far, and it is based on a simple idea - people will happily give away their data and privacy if you consistently entertain them. In my opinion the application should be shut down as soon as possible, but there are many lessons to learn from it. And most of them have little to do with technology.
In what world is this even true in the age of Facebook and Google?
TikTok might get engagement and device data but that's about it.
I assume this is the classic case of "China Bad" "USA Good" (or less bad because it's not China)
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#585Earlier quoted context omitted.
The relationship is complex and contingent, but generally the host country will be making a range of concessions to the US (e.g. ceding land, giving US troops a range of indemnities, agreeing to purchase weapons systems from the US). It may not be profitable for "the US" as an abstract whole, but the US is not a unitary entity; it's very profitable for the largest lobbying organisations in the US (Lockheed etc.).
I believe it's profitable for Lockheed, etc., but isn't that at the expense of the American taxpayers? And doesn't the foreign location usually make money from the base being there?
The entity making decisions and benefiting does not heed and does not work to benefit the american taxpayers. The US from the point of view of the rest of the world is the military industrial complex, a network of corruption/compromise of varipus governments and one sided trade treaties, and the interests of american oligarchs.
The american taxpayer only benefits insofar as they are goven crumbs so they do not revolt or use what little democratic control they have to reign in the beast.
From the point of view of the rest of the world, there is nothing really to distinguish the US from the CCP other than the CCP are slightly more forward thinking in some of their projects in terms of long term benefit to themselves and are (momentarily) more brutally authoritarian. On the US side the main downsides aee they're currently dominant and there is a real danger of the US being taken over by a literal apocalypse cult that seeks climate change as an end to seek rather than merely something to be ignored where possible as the current incumbents do.
Other than that, one imperialist is the same as another -- to some degree even for the other countries in the imperial core.
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when was the last time China invaded another country and killed hundreds of thousands? I really not interested in arguing good vs. evil, China VS US, but your blindness is just amazing!
I think it was Vietnam, after US vs Vietnam Though the Chinese are everyday provoking Taiwan like crazy nowadays and does a hell lot of economic coercion to other countries They also had some recent borders disputes with India which did end up with deaths
Good thing the US doesn't do any of that economic coercion...
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#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
United States is above China in life expectancy averages. My impression was that the healthcare here is very expensive, but not bad. Besides, US does not prevent people from demanding better.
Not anymore: https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7vevb/us-life-expectancy-fa...
That article is poorly sourced.
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#588Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe it's profitable for Lockheed, etc., but isn't that at the expense of the American taxpayers? And doesn't the foreign location usually make money from the base being there?
The entity making decisions and benefiting does not heed and does not work to benefit the american taxpayers. The US from the point of view of the rest of the world is the military industrial complex, a network of corruption/compromise of varipus governments and one sided trade treaties, and the interests of american oligarchs. The american taxpayer only benefits insofar as they are goven crumbs so they do not revolt…
I can't take anyone seriously who says there's nothing to distinguish the US from the country that's commiting genocide against the Uyghurs and imprisons innocent foreign civilians because their country had Chinese criminals in prison.
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#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
The police in China doesn't kill with guns. It kills by preventing people from demanding better healthcare. The same goes for incarceration. In US 3M people can't use Internet due to being incarcerated, but in China more than 1.5B have significant restrictions. (This is just an example for the idea of total restricted freedom)
> The police in China doesn't kill with guns. It kills by preventing people from demanding better healthcare. Given the efforts that China has put in to stopping the spread of cov19 over the past 2 years, that seems delusional. Also, Chinese life expectancy has exceeded the US now[1] [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7vevb/us-life-expectancy-fa... > The same goes for incarceration. In US 3M people can't use Intern…
As I mentioned below, your first link is poorly sourced.
As for your second one, your attempt to claim the restrictions are similar is going into wrong ears here. Both the cooker claim and the songs claim are laughable.
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#590> All this disruption is healthy in a market long thought uncompetitive.
The US market for one, is so tilted in favor of established firms that use their market positions to build moats and buy or crush any upstart competitors and focus all their on attention on lobbying and rent seeking behaviors that the only place for legitimate contenders to appear is from places like China where American firms can't just buy them out of existence.