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Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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windexh8er wrote: post #388
lqet wrote: post #194

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I have been managing my own mail server for 6 years now, and enabling and configuring all the mail security features (DKIM, SPF, etc), and keeping up with them, is indeed the most difficult part. I regularly check my mail server against tools like this: https://mxtoolbox.com/diagnostic.aspx . If you just do one thing wrong, you will end up on some black list from which it is very difficult to get off. So far, I did n…

This. So many people don't take the 10 minutes to configure DMARC, DKIM and SPF. I've been hosting my own domains since 1996 and I haven't ever had a problem with any of them sending mail to any of the big hosters. If your DMARC passes and you actually have a policy set to REJECT you're almost guaranteed to not have a problem as long as your domain isn't a few days old. The first thing I do for any new domain I plan…

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Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Post by mensetmanusman »

_imba_ wrote: post #359

Not completely related to personal accounts being banned, but something that happened to me recently: I started a side business with some friends during lockdown. We created an online store selling some hard-to-get long tail items, and almost instantly got some traction and growth thanks to Google Shopping. A month ago we received one of these generic automated mails that our account is banned and we were misrepresen…

On youtube at least, competitors can flag videos as ‘ungood’ in a number of ways (copyright, hate speech, NSFW, etc.) to entangle their competitors in bureaucracy.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Post by g_p »

dmitriid wrote: post #574
g_p wrote: post #74

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In Europe there's no provision for GDPR rights to access to data to be removed on these non-grounds, so users would have the right to get access to their takeout. Since Google's processes don't seem to give access to that, you might have to sue them. If they failed to show though, you should be able to get a default judgement eventually. (note - GDPR is in some cases privately litigable, so you don't need to wait aro…

Europe has been really slow giving out fines. And even those fines are often less than a slap on the wrist. In France Google got fined $57mln for breach of GDPR. That's what Google makes in 3 hours.

That is why it is important to note that certain GDPR rights can be enforced yourself, without waiting on a regulator. Waiting on a regulator to bring the case is not your only option, since these are data subject rights, and the data subject (i.e. you) an sue directly.

Certain approved consumer groups are also able to do this as well - the regulators are too slow right now, but others are gearing up to start taking cases themselves.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

eropple wrote: post #521
gitweb wrote: post #497

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Should it also be a requirement for the government to posts what preferences you look for in a partner on dating websites, what gender you prefer when searching for doctors, what race you prefer when looking for cleaning or child care assistance?

This is a ghastly and inhumane comparison. Companies aren't people.

A few million companies are 1 person:

http://www.smbceo.com/2011/03/14/25-million-small-businesses...

Not sure if they are people though

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Post by justiceforsaas »

_imba_ wrote: post #359

Not completely related to personal accounts being banned, but something that happened to me recently: I started a side business with some friends during lockdown. We created an online store selling some hard-to-get long tail items, and almost instantly got some traction and growth thanks to Google Shopping. A month ago we received one of these generic automated mails that our account is banned and we were misrepresen…

A good business will ALWAYS try to diversify their acquisition channels. I've analyzed/interviewed 400+ founders and what channels they use to get to (paying) customers [1] and this is a pattern I've noticed across successful founders.

Google Shopping is just 1 channel through which you could get customers. Since you're in Africa, my guess is that SEO is WAY easier than US/Canada, so that's a viable channel. Lack of ebay/amazons in Africa is an opportunity, because you don't have them dominating the top 10 SERPs. I could go on and on and on...

[1] https://firstpayingusers.com

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Post by moonshinefe »

carapace wrote: post #481

A few comments in this thread rub me the wrong way. E.g.: > It should be illegal. > How is this not regulated? No one forces you to use these services. They're voluntary. Imagine you're looking for storage for some stuff. One company advertises a storage service, which is free, but there's a clause in the contract that says, "We can take your stuff at any time, for any reason, no backsies." Would you trust your stuff…

That analogy doesn't even make sense.

Also, nobody is arguing that people are "being forced" to use google services, feel free to quote a single person here that said that.

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

Anarch157a wrote: post #334

Everyone saying "I would lose all my e-mail" apparently doesn't know about fetchmail, getmail or even Thunderbird. Just download your mail using IMAP or POP3 and archive it locally. I recently deleted my last Gmail account (that I had since 2001). Before doing it, I tried Google's Checkout to get the data, but it was adking me for "verification" (i.e. more info about me) to finish the download. I just fired up Thunde…

I feel silly for not having thought of this. Thanks for the suggestion. Just setup Thunderbird and i'm downloading my emails now using the offline sync feature. Appreciate the advice!

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Post by snazz »

acd10j wrote: post #566
snazz wrote: post #351

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You can also schedule Google Takeout, which gives you a nice .zip or .tgz with mbox files, in addition to all of your other Google information. I have it set to deliver one of these backups every two months automatically.

How would you do google checkout once they have banned your account with no access ? Even if you have done it majority of people suffering from this fate will not have google checkout data or access to it !

True. But I was replying to a comment which mentioned using IMAP sync as a backup; both that solution and Google Takeout require access to your account.
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