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MacBook Pro Keyboard Drives Me Crazy

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Post by shepardrtc »

magashna wrote: post #524
shepardrtc wrote: post #490

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Sorry, but Apple did a really great thing with this keyboard. I absolutely love it, and its a shame that its going away because people like to complain on the internet.

People rightfully complaining that a grain of sand can stop their kb from functioning correctly. Typing from my Vortex Race 3 75% w/ cherry pinks

I had someone take a leaf blower and blast dirt and sand all over my keyboard (not on purpose). No issues after I took an air duster to it. This was a new setup and there are sometimes issues with the first generation or two of something. Yes there were issues, but the keyboards are fantastic to type on if you give them a chance.

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Post by panpanna »

SomeOldThrow wrote: post #551
panpanna wrote: post #486

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> Linux out of the box without tweaking it will have a lot of behavior you may or may not agree with I hear this from people who choose to use arch and Gentoo then complain that Linux requires much tweaking. Install Ubuntu and be done with it. Or if you want things to work like a Mac, go with elementary OS. If you still feel it's not _exactly_ to your liking, then I suggest you move back to osx.

> Install Ubuntu and be done with it. Thinking this is real is a huge problem in the linux community. My entire post was about ubuntu. This is their trackpad guide in 2019: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad Stuff like that makes me wonder who Canonical's target audience is and who they're testing with. > Or if you want things to work like a Mac, go with elementary OS. This is a joke, right? It's bas…

> maybe I've been using macs too long

I think this is the main issue. You want your PC to work exactly like your Mac and are not prepared to learn the way the new system works.

Case in point: a lot of people complain about trackpad issues but Linux/windows do not use mouse gestures. You should learn to use gnome hot-zones and/or keyboard shortcuts because experience have shown us it is more efficient.

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Post by mcv »

samcheng wrote: post #553
mcv wrote: post #453

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I think the late 2011 unibody is the best Macbook they ever made. Easily opened up, with nearly everything replaceable. Pleasant to work with. Their last lineup that had a 17 inch model available. Only downside: noisy fans. I replaced them, bit that didn't fix it. Give me one with quieter fans and maybe a slightly more up to date processor, and I'm happy.

Frustratingly, to me at least, that one didn't have an HDMI port, requiring a dongle.

True, it didn't. I've got a couple of different dongles for it. I would really prefer my next laptop to have a real HDMI port.

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Post by Mandatum »

tolmasky wrote: post #37

The worst part is that I can tell this keyboard is actually having a detrimental effect on my typing abilities. Since being on these keyboards for years now, I've noticed that my typing speed has slowed, as I spend a significant amount of cognitive energy preparing to fix mistakes. The faster you type, the more annoying it is to go farther back to fix something. I'm not sure how to quantify the focus it steals from t…

> I don't have 3 days to not use my computer

You're really that busy? You don't have a PC or a spare old laptop to continue working on?

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Post by parasubvert »

falcolas wrote: post #580
parasubvert wrote: post #572

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It’s not unreliability for a majority, though. That would imply over 50% of laptops have required repairs, which is a ludicrous number. There is literally no evidence of that. A vocal minority, yes. That can’t seem to accept that it is a minority.

If you follow the rule of 1-9-90, for every outspoken person in the community, there are 90 others who are silently working around the issues with their keyboard. And does it really matter whether it’s a minority or a majority? Perhaps I should have worded it as a “significant number of users” to avoid the hangup on one word.

It does matter if it’s a minority or a majority! Words like “completely unacceptable”, “should be illegal”, “never again” are thrown around with abandon, painting a false picture of what’s actually going on: a substantial quality issue for a minority (10-20%?) number of users, but perceived by social media participants to be a vast majority (60%+).

Misperceptions such as these lead to lots of mistaken beliefs about far reaching issues.

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Post by aeontech »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #266
aeontech wrote: post #157

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FWIW, most people I know remap caps lock to ESC for ergonomic reasons, so for them removing the physical escape key was a no-op. I realize that's a vanishing minority of normal people though :)

You're describing the first step on a rather slippery slope. I started by making Caps into Esc... Now I press enter with my right palm and escape with my left thumb and people make fun of me when they see my workstation. http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/9be130e4c9b503...

What’s the physical hardware you are running these on?
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