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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by MrGilbert »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #558
jws wrote: post #429

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Notch? What notch? I have an iPhone X and mine has ears which extend the display up into the top of the phone where the camera is placed to get my status bar out of the screen. Brilliant! I say.

And what do I do with the parts of the status bar that don't fit on the ears?

On iOS? Nothing, 'cause there is no such thing. The "status bar" shows the battery indicator, the signal strength, and wether you are on cellular or wifi.

On the left, you've got the name of the carrier you are currently using, whos text is scrolling. If it's unlocked, it shows the current time and if GPS is enabled.

That's it.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by afandian »

mstade wrote: post #94
jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

It’d be interesting to see the results of a survey on this I think, I and I know many of my peers are of the exact opposite opinion. I like the move to usb-c, I like the new keyboard, I don’t mind (but also don’t really use) the Touch Bar but I can’t live without Touch ID at this point. The big trackpad is magical to me, and the thickness and weight of the 13” is just right. I have an older MBP as well, 2013 maybe, a…

I hope you _can_ live without the Touch ID! I did some manual work last weekend and now my fingerprints don't work.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by Hendrikto »

LoSboccacc wrote: post #535
simonh wrote: post #518

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A symmetric bezel is literally the only selling point iPhones have over phones half the price. Really.

yes? android can do: phone calls internet browsing apps heck, I can use firefox and ublock on android, so iphones look even worse feature wise from here. they look good and cost a lot and that's it. even the app quality argument holds little value today as there's not many app today that aren't just cross-compiled plus, a billion of little cuts, like not being able to download an mp3 and use it as alarm or ringtone,…

Next time, read the comment you reply to before starting into a rant.

Both of you think Android > Apple.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by Hendrikto »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #554
PunksATawnyFill wrote: post #66

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How about decisions like removing the headphone jacks from the company's most popular music players, the very devices with which people are supposed consume the media-centric services that Tim Cook and analysts say are the future of Apple? For Apple's and consumers' sake, I hope NOT.

Apple manufactures bluetooth headphones also [0] .. do the math. The really popular Beats headphones for example are made by Apple indirectly. By cutting off the headphone connection, they are encouraging people to buy new products instead of using old and proven technologies. Apple has done this all the time during their history, eg. look at the whole adapter situation where you just have to buy extra hardware to co…

> encouraging people to buy new products instead of using old and proven technologies

People who are not stupid are actually encouraged to switch to a competitor who is less anti-consumer.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by azernik »

mantap wrote: post #403
azernik wrote: post #371

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It's a bad design feature that is sadly common across premium smartphone brands - e.g. the Pixel 3 is also quite hard to grasp. One thing where I think lower-end phone design tends to be better, a function of their lower priority on aesthetics.

It's the fault of wireless charging. Premium phones used to have metal backs, but that is incompatible with wireless charging so we are cursed with glass for eternity now.

You could also go with assorted plastics, and they haven't tried that.

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Post by [deleted] »

zild3d wrote: post #188
valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

I'd take asymmetric borders over having a large notch anyday. See S10+ next to an iphone XS Max [0]. It's subjective of course, but strictly looking at display & bezels the "which is more aesthetically pleasing" question is not even close [0] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NG5Wd9Px40o/maxresdefault.jpg

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by thirdsun »

TheOperator wrote: post #501
anbop wrote: post #492

The new headquarters syndrome strikes again. Ive, sidelined, went eyeballs deep into the new headquarters, alongside a decline in physical product quality like the trashcan design miss and keyboard gremlins. Hardware and software teams kept executing but there’s clearly a need for a change in design.

Apples design has been a big yawner for a few years now. Apple watch and MBPr impressed me. Since then? Seems like the design had actively getting worse since 2015 I.E. MBP with touchbar. The Mac Pro and Apples new display don't look terrible to me but the cheese grater aesthetics aren't amazing either and it's a bit of a rehash of the Powermac G5. There was also that charger they cancelled. Maybe apple should consid…

I consider the current iPad Pro lineup to be a step in the right direction. Those sharp, flat edges remind of the iconic iPhone 4 / 5 / SE design language. The recent roundness of iPhones in contrast feels rather conventional and boring.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by schuke »

coldtea wrote: post #516
tapland wrote: post #510

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This is a very weird way of viewing the issue. The space is physically there, but because the size of the phone is ok anyway experience-wise it seems to be an extra feature?

> This is a very weird way of viewing the issue. It's very weird to call it an issue as well. I remember what kind of phones we had until 2007. I've used infuriating devices from Android vendors as well. The notch is not even a first world problem....

Yeah. Old Casio watches have screens with notches, punches, dual screens, screens in screens... you name it. They’re fine. They actually work well and don’t bother anyone.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by andromeduck »

fabianmg wrote: post #579
valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

> With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself ... You're kidding right?. Apple put so much serious R&D into the display that they asked Samsung to create it.

Samsung is contracted for the manufacturing but that doesn't mean Apple didn't come up with large portions of the design or otherwise find and support the project

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by wor3q »

Hendrikto wrote: post #584
inDigiNeous wrote: post #554

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple manufactures bluetooth headphones also [0] .. do the math. The really popular Beats headphones for example are made by Apple indirectly. By cutting off the headphone connection, they are encouraging people to buy new products instead of using old and proven technologies. Apple has done this all the time during their history, eg. look at the whole adapter situation where you just have to buy extra hardware to co…

> encouraging people to buy new products instead of using old and proven technologies People who are not stupid are actually encouraged to switch to a competitor who is less anti-consumer.

And this is where whole "ecosystem" comes in. If you switch, you will either have to replace all of your devices, or have inconveniences while using them together.
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