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Google details new 24-hour process to sideload unverified Android apps

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'Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' - Benjamin Franklin

'essential' means can't be bothered to wait 24 hours (once)?

To do what I want with my own property seems pretty essential to me.

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The part in the flow where you select between allowing app installs for 7 days or forever is a glimpse into the future. That toggle shows the thought process that's going on at Google. I can bet that a few versions down the line, the "Not recommended" option of allowing installs indefinitely will become so not recommended that they'll remove it outright. Then shrink the 7 day window to 3 days or less. Or only give us…

I hope the EU cracks down on them like they did with Apple.

Merely regulating them isn't enough. The world needs to start enforcing antitrust laws. If we don't break up all these big tech companies, our future will be a technofeudalist cyberpunk dystopia.

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GrapheneOS phones are still an option, it’s unaffected by these rules.

They have terrible support for banking apps and any app that needs play integrity

Then don't use those apps. I know it's easier said than done sometimes, but freedom is more important than convenience.

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I'm generally OK with this, but the 24 hour hang time does seem a bit onerous. Most of the apps on my phone are installed from F-Droid. I guess the next time I get a new phone I'll have to wait at least 24 hours for it to become useful. I'm seriously considering Graphene for a next personal device and whatever the cheapest iOS device is for work.

The apps might not be available though. Many developers are simply stopping in the face of Google's invasive policies. I don't blame them. Say goodbye to useful apps like Newpipe.

Developers will also be able to publish their apps on free Android devices like Graphene, I don't think that apps like NewPipe will go away.

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GrapheneOS phones are still an option, it’s unaffected by these rules.

If they manage to expand their lineup a bit, that'll be my next phone. Or, if a company makes a phone with GrapheneOS preinstalled, I'm giving them my money. Fuck Google for doing this, and Play Integrity making me unable to use banks is even worse.

They're actually partnering with Motorola and have phones coming out next year! It sounds like they'll be the Motorola Signature, Razr and Fold (iirc).

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You thought it wasn't reporting every app you install?

I mean, I'm happy to be conspiratorial about it too, I give Google no benefit of the doubt, but outside of Play Protect I don't think they explicitly say "your phone is telling us every app you install." This new feature is them making that explicit.

How can you say “outside of Play Protect” when it comes enabled by default and hassles me to turn it back on every time I install an APK?

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What's then left as Google's advantage? I'm really not interested in buying myself a cage, but if Google will make me choose between two cages then Apple has nicer one.

Google still doesn't make you pay s dollar to write an app on their architecture (only to have it hosted in their store).

you also don't need to pay apple for using xcode and building apps for ios either; the 99 dollars is for uploading to appstore or installing to devices for more than 7 days

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The part in the flow where you select between allowing app installs for 7 days or forever is a glimpse into the future. That toggle shows the thought process that's going on at Google. I can bet that a few versions down the line, the "Not recommended" option of allowing installs indefinitely will become so not recommended that they'll remove it outright. Then shrink the 7 day window to 3 days or less. Or only give us…

An actual example of this lives in the Gmail iOS app. Click a link in an email and every x days, a sheet appears: https://imgur.com/a/nlGS4Yk 1. Chrome 2. Google 3. Default browser app (w/unfamiliar generic logo) They removed the option for Safari some time in the last two years; here's how it looked in 2024: https://imgur.com/1iBVFfc And the cherry on top of dark UX patterns: an unchecked toggle rests at the bottom.…

I hate this pop-up so much. I don’t even have Chrome installed on my phone. How about open up on the only browser I have installed…

This kind of thing should be illegal. The default browser is the default for a reason, to avoid this kind of stuff.

I think I’ve reported this as a bug to Google a couple times, in a couple different apps… as they do it in their other apps too.

The only thing that bothers me more are the, “sign-in with Google”, prompts on 90% of websites now. How about just giving the option to login with Google if so choose to login, and not spam it on every website just for visiting?

Google really has made the internet and worse place in so many ways.

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>"PLEASE DRINK VERIFICATION CAN TO CONTINUE"

Context: https://files.catbox.moe/eqg0b2.png I think they later made a Black Mirror episode along these lines. "Resume viewing... Resume viewing..."

Fiften Million Merits. The one where advertisers literally torture a man with loud high pitched noises because he refused to view ads and didn't have enough money to skip them.
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