No Interpol or ICC warrant, no answer to sovereignty or jurisdictional issues, no justified claim of extraterritoriality.
Can't we call a kidnapping what it is?
Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes
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#572I will spare saying the obvious illegality of such actions and how serious this is. I will just say something else: I grew up as a kid between the 80s and 90s, when the world felt like it was going towards a brighter age of peace and respect. Berlin wall falling, China opening, Apartheid ending in South Africa, even Palestine and Israel were moving towards a more peaceful future. But since then the world has just pro…
isn't it the case by pretty much every quantifiable metric the world is better than ever?
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#573Notice the hypocrisy of the "explosions reported" title instead of "US bombs Venezuela".
Welcome to the wonderful world of news/media. Try this with US/China, EU/russia, Israel/Palestine, etc. Note the framing, word usage, etc. Both sides could do the same thing but the headlines diverge. One side gets "aggressive", "destablizing", "terrorism", etc. The other gets "defensive", "stabilizing", "anti-terrorism", etc. Not to mention who gets called a "dictator/authoritarian". That one is real funny.
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#574Maduro had it coming, although I'm not surprised the bleeding hearts on HN can't see that. The guy was a dictator. Fuck him. Well done USA and happy new year.
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#575Let freedom ring. Every Venezuelan I know is happy for the regime to fall. Let's hope Iran, Cuba, North Korea and Russia follow soon.
If you are talking about those that left the country... yeah, obviously they are happy. They literally left and got a better life. That's called immigration. That doesn't mean that it will be fine for those that stayed.
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#576Two wrongs don’t make a right. Regardless of your opinion on Maduro, you can still acknowledge that the head of a sovereign state being captured in an unannounced/unnamed military operation by a superpower is wrong from a principled standpoint, and that it’s destabilising a country with 30+ million people if not the entire region.
Agreed. Watching the worldwide reactions so far, it’s surprising to see the RN (hard-right) in France most vocal in condemning.
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#577Two wrongs don’t make a right. Regardless of your opinion on Maduro, you can still acknowledge that the head of a sovereign state being captured in an unannounced/unnamed military operation by a superpower is wrong from a principled standpoint, and that it’s destabilising a country with 30+ million people if not the entire region.
For starters even EU does not recognize Maduro as legit head of state
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#578Before jumping in with an opinion on this event, it's a good idea to bone up on the modern history of Venezuela. I recommend this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHXW1vOBI4 From a few days ago, "The Crisis in Venezuela. Explained." It's from Warfronts, one of Simon Whistler's projects. If you're looking for bias, he is neither American nor lives in the US.
It also helps to know why the US is so desperate for Venezuela's oil:
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#579Does Americans really believe a chief of a big country is state is a drug smuggler?
The question is irrelevant as the US just pardoned a major Honduran drug smuggler head of state, not to mention the well documented US involvement in the foreign drug trade (e.g., Afghanistan).
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#580It's funny how many people already see this as a book that is opened and closed on the same day. That's not how these things work. This is like the first stone of an avalanche. It could stop here, or it could roll on for quite a while. It will take months or even years to know whether or not the outcome here was desirable or not and what the final tally is. Remember the 'Arab spring' and what came after.
>> Trump also said he believes that American companies will be “heavily involved” in rebuilding Venezuela’s oil infrastructure.[1]
There we have it. The real reason for the invasion. Looks like the start of yet another avalanche as you say.
Jan 6th, extrajudicial killings, ICE deportations, threatening to takeover Greenland, and now the kidnap of a foreign country's leader. The world needs to wake up and realise the USA is just China/Russia with better PR.
Edit: And now he's confirmed the US will run the country until they decide otherwise.