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Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Post by kristopolous »

unionjack22 wrote: post #271

Here's a trick I've learnt to get an authentic view of events like these, a nice way to parse through the keyboard warrior and ivory tower voices and noise is to hear what Venezuelans, the millions of Venezuelan migrants, and the citizens of neighboring countries who've had to reckon with the legacy of Chavez think about this. You can extend this to anything really with good results. No valuable insight will be glean…

So if Americans don't like Trump then, say, Italy can unilaterally bomb San Francisco?

Or should this only be a one way street? Is dropping bombs to disapprove of elections how we're being adults in 2026?

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Post by avaer »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #239

So the US can just fly into a country and kidnap it's president and his wife at will now? Just because Donald Trump feels like it. And most Americans will somehow praise and love it. What the hell? I hate getting too political because it ends up so toxic and divisive, but with what logic is this not insane?

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Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Post by Dumblydorr »

unionjack22 wrote: post #271

Here's a trick I've learnt to get an authentic view of events like these, a nice way to parse through the keyboard warrior and ivory tower voices and noise is to hear what Venezuelans, the millions of Venezuelan migrants, and the citizens of neighboring countries who've had to reckon with the legacy of Chavez think about this. You can extend this to anything really with good results. No valuable insight will be glean…

So that equally applies to your comment here and renders it null?

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Post by boramalper »

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Regardless of your opinion on Maduro, you can still acknowledge that the head of a sovereign state being captured in an unannounced/unnamed military operation by a superpower is wrong from a principled standpoint, and that it’s destabilising a country with 30+ million people if not the entire region.

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Post by ofalkaed »

I just spent way too much time reading through this thread looking for a single post more concerned about Venezuela and its people than the poster's own politics. I gave up when I noticed I was only a 1/4 of the way through thread, should have started from the bottom.

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Post by mrtksn »

slg wrote: post #82

As someone old enough to have seen the US invade too many countries, I'm struck by the lack of effort put into justifying this sort of military action these days. There is going to be a lot of debate over whether this specific operation was legal and I have no idea where the courts or history will ultimately land on that decision. But the way they don't even try to convince us this is necessary anymore is a sign that…

>There is going to be a lot of debate over whether this specific operation was legal

Or maybe there wouldn't be any debate and people will move on to the next bombastic thing he does. Populists get away with everything by simply not engaging, people get tired and seek new entertainment and there's no actual checks and balances beyond the decency. When someone has no claim of decency, they are untouchable. No one will ever arrest them, stop them or deny them anything because they can just replace those who do not obey. Maduro, Trump, Putin, Erdogan, Orban and many others are made from the same cloth.

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