India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

Post by seatac76 » Wed, May 07, 2025, 3:45 PM UTC

bigyabai wrote: post #569

seatac76 wrote: post #554

Things most likely will not escalate. These terrorist attacks are always planned by Pak Army with the next steps in mind. Pak Army needs a war to re assert it's dominance. It is under a lot of pressure domestically due to what they did to democratic opposition, so precipitating war with India would provide a chance to consolidate the base. The choice of explicitly targeting people by religion was done to ensure an In…

I'd just like to see the evidence that India claims justified their attack. Between this and the fallout of the Canadian Sikh assassination, it's really starting to feel like Modi's government doesn't care about having a believable narrative at all.

Post by seatac76 » Wed, May 07, 2025, 3:46 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #571

seatac76 wrote: post #564

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This is attempt to draw a false equivalence between two events which does not stand scrutiny. Islamic terrorists are a keystone pillar of Pakistani society, they walk openly and are supported by the state. Plenty of literature around how Pak Army has adopted the proxy war against India. Unlikely India is involved that much in West Pakistan given the geographical realities. I agree these bombings won't solve anything…

Well, Pakistan apparently downed 5 Indian jets, 3 of which are Dassault Rafale. Hardly cannon fodders. There's a billion dollars loss of equipment. Anyway, I don't know much about Pakistan or India's backing of respective terrorists but trying to frame this, or any geopolitical situation as Good vs Evil is always wrong. It's O.K. to pick a side or distance yourself from someone if they do things you find immoral but…

Post by nine_k » Wed, May 07, 2025, 3:48 PM UTC

karaterobot wrote: post #559

krisoft wrote: post #465

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> Pakistan is not economically strong enough to participate in a war They have nukes. They don't need to be rich to do massive damage. Sure doing so would have terrible consequences, but cooler heads sometimes don't prevail. Or only prevail after much suffering and pain.

There aren't a lot of examples of a country being unwilling or unable to fight in a full-scale war, and instead launching nukes at their next door neighbor. I don't think this is part of the playbook, or based on evidence, I think it's coming from anxiety.

Post by tomjen3 » Wed, May 07, 2025, 3:52 PM UTC

pokstad wrote: post #71

nblgbg wrote: post #61

I believe it's mostly overstated. Pakistan is not economically strong enough to participate in a war, and India is not interested either. However, the Modi government wants to project strength. They were unable to locate the terrorists even after two or three weeks and needed a distraction. So, they targeted some areas in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK). In response, Pakistan claimed to have shot down four Indian air…

Thanks for stating these forecasts so authoritatively. Or maybe we should admit this is uncharted waters and we shouldn't downplay what is possible?

Post by sdsd » Wed, May 07, 2025, 3:59 PM UTC

throw63 wrote: post #250

babyent wrote: post #243

Hoping for a quick resolution and diplomatic victory for all people there. I’m scared of the geopolitical effects. On a side note.. Can we get the Peace and Prosperity update next, ASAP? Let’s bring out the aliens issue and work on interstellar travel and galactic survival instead of terrestrial disputes. I just want to live in a chill world. And for me that’s science and tech tree maxed out.

> and for me that’s science and tech tree maxed out. Hate to ruin it for you, but as soon as the economic elites don't need the masses anymore (eg because AGI produces goods and entertainment better than we do), we'll become a liability, dead weight, so they'll quickly use that same maxed out tech that made us obsolete to make us gone.