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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by logicchains »

jhancock wrote: post #75
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #34

Remember how China turned its tech industry into a smoking ruin - make making them all submit to political priorities: Ant Group: China halted Ant’s IPO and forced a restructuring Alibaba: China fined and politically disciplined Alibaba Didi: China punished Didi after its US listing by removing its apps, freezing users, forcing delisting Tutoring platforms: banned profit from core school-subject tutoring. Tencent gam…

From my perspective curtailing Ant's plans was positive regulatory action. Political priorities and good governance is why we have government.

Seems like a pretty terrible idea in hindsight, destroying private lending, given how desperately the government is trying and failing to raise domestic consumption now.

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Post by lostmsu »

stackedinserter wrote: post #330
akmarinov wrote: post #93

Sooo both OpenAI and Anthropic going bankrupt soon? If they can’t freely sell access to their models and Chinese models catch up to Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5 in 6-8 months - then why pay OAI/Anthropic at all?

How many people are going to buy a $10-20K rigs to run these open models?

20K won't buy you a rig for GPT 5.5

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Post by sunshine-o »

Honest question: for those working with those models on offensive security, how much does this move make sense?

I am asking because I have seen a growing number of stories about organizations getting owned by either raw mismanagement of security, supply chain attacks that are often a failure at the ecosystem level, npm, etc.

I am not really seeing from what we hear about the use of AI for penetration as a threat yet. The growing problem with security seems to be more at the management and ecosystem layers.

Not many story that netfilter, ipfw or pf got owned by one of those frontier models.

A lot of stories that organisation X and Y left keys on a public repo for months.

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Post by derefr »

razighter777 wrote: post #135

I hope this doesn't become the new norm where government becomes the bottleneck for innovation in the AI space. It's worrying that with no formal and transparent policy framework that the government will be picking winners and losers and stifling innovation. There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this, I wonder if anyone has filed FOIA requests for these decisions or the conversa…

> There's been no public policy, executive order, legislation, or otherwise on this

I mean, insofar as you could frame each new model as its own patentable invention, "patent secrecy" would be an existing policy framework that clearly justifies what's been happening here.

1. Some private company or individual invents something.

2. But the state wants a monopoly on the new thing's military use-cases (against other states/militaries.) So the state forcibly classifies the invention at patent time.

3. But the individual/company still wants to make more money than the state is giving them as compensation for their own use of the patent. They want to sell to the private market. But, of course, the state doesn't want to permit this, as arbitrary private parties could in turn resell to foreign state actors.

4. So a compromise is struck: private use is now made deny-by-default. The state permits the individual or company to sell into the private market, given: a rigorous per-customer KYB background-checking process; strong supply-chain tracing; contractual stipulations prohibiting resale; and the customer use-case being transformative or cost-prohibitive to extract the original invention from.

5. As such, big established enterprise customers who want the invention for private use in their internal industrial processes, can somewhat-easily jump all those hoops to acquire access to it; but everyone else is now basically locked out.

Sound familiar?

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Post by stanac »

malfist wrote: post #412
stanac wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For personal use I don't care if I get access to it. Tokens are becoming too expensive. I am using Chinese models. What worries me is that my company may never get access. I work for a well known US company, but from Europe, we also have developers in Mexico. I can only guess US gov will take this into account when deciding who gets to use the new models. Even worse than not getting access is getting fired. Since les…

> For personal use I don't care if I get access to it There's a big difference between being priced out of a market option and the government saying you literally cannot buy it. We should all be wary of government controls like this.

You are right, I was thinking selfishly. I don't like the control governments have on tech in general. In my country government forced banks to use device attestation for banking apps. If your android phone is in developer mode banking app won't work, you can change bank but it will make no difference. I think they are also enforcing 2FA to be in the banking apps, so I can't even use web app without locked down android phone or iPhone.

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Post by utilize1808 »

pixelpoet wrote: post #508
utilize1808 wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The government will just claim that unsanctioned models have the potential to deliberately introduce security vulnerabilities when working on IT projects (e.g. be trained to strongly yet covertly favoring introducing compromised dependencies when you are not looking). Then laws will be made to forbid organizations who use models other than those from the sanctioned labs to participate in critical projects on national…

Then all they do is drive the usage of open models underground (copyright infringement is illegal too, and still common), stifle US companies operating legally, and accelerate the rest of the world decoupling from the US. I hope they do it! It will have a positive long-term effect just like the Iran war footgun accelerates renewable energy transition.

Have you seen legitimate corporates use cracked software? If you do, then your competitors will report you; your employees will blackmail you. The risk is too great.

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Post by contagiousflow »

xdennis wrote: post #529
xtracto wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watch out, ive read that the US government has incarcerated people for about 50 years for doing that.

Stop spreading misinformation. They were found guilty by a jury of their peers of providing material support for terrorism[1]. They shot a cop in the neck. They coordinated on Signal to bring firearms. They didn't plan to "protest". They got off lightly. Should have been life without parole. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention...

And what happened to the J6 crew?
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