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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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No the jump from Intel to M1 was a massive one.

I was checking https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks , seems like it is misleading because the jump came from parallel computation and new arch rather than pure compute power

If you used it you noticed it big time. The efficiency jump in particular is astonishing.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Any benchmark useful to cross compare single user desktop/laptop experience is going to be useless in the datacentre; and vice versa.

That doesn't make any sense. Many of the applications are identical, e.g. developer workstations and CI servers are both compiling code, video editing workstations and render farms are both processing video. A lot of the hardware is all but indistinguishable; Epyc and Threadripper have similar core counts and even use the same core complexes. The only real distinction is between high end systems and low end systems,…

For >99% of people looking to compile code or render video on an M5 Laptop they are interested in the wall-clock time, running bare metal, assuming all IO is to a fast NVMe SSD, and even a large job will only thermally throttle for a bit then recover.

Most people looking to optimize Epyc compile or render performance care about running inside VMs, all IO to SANs, assuming the is enough work you can yield to other jobs to increase throughput, and ideally near thermal equilibrium.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Yes - typically the (US English, at least) jargon is "quick" for acceleration and "fast" for top speed...

Nah not really. When you watch drag racing, they're testing acceleration. One car is always faster. Nobody says one is quicker than the other. Quick (when referring to straight line speed) is reserved for cars like the Miata, which has decent acceleration, but certainly can't accelerate like a muscle car. Nobody really compares top speed all that much because it's damn near impossible to hit top speed in a lot of car…

Interestingly, Gemini agrees with me:

>>In the context of cars:

>>"Fast" refers to top speed. A fast car has a high maximum velocity. It can cover a great distance in a sustained manner once it reaches its peak speed. Think of the Bugatti Chiron or a Koenigsegg, which are famous for their incredibly high top speeds.

>>"Quick" refers to acceleration. A quick car can get from a standstill to a certain speed (often 0 to 60 mph or 0 to 100 km/h) in a very short amount of time. This is about how rapidly the car can change its velocity. Modern electric vehicles, like the Tesla Model S Plaid or the Lucid Air Sapphire, are prime examples of exceptionally quick cars due to the instant torque of their electric motors.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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M4 23884 365 29861 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M4+10+Core&id... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+AI+9+365&...

Interesting, on Geekbench they have very different scoring 365: 2515/12552 M4: 3763/14694 https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-ai-9-365 https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11020192

395 is still higher on Geekbench at 2781/17644

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Did you think I said otherwise?

Moore's law was about transistors and cost, you were equating it to performance. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45434910 Your reply here is not directly related or an answer to the comment you replied to.

You have brought a lot of your own assumptions to that reading. OP asked if doubling or tripling core count counted as keeping up with Moore’s law. I pointed out that in the case of the M series (the topic of the thread), regardless of core count, transistor count did not double or triple.
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