Why would it have 9 cores? Feels a bit weird to have an (a) uneven and (b) not a power of two amount of cores on a processor.
Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
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If you are OK with the closed apple ecosystem, sure, but I mean, 20% is not that much for 99% of the population. Don't get me wrong, I really admire what apple has done with the M CPUs, but I personally prefer the freedom of being able to install linux, bsd, windows, and even weirder OSes like Haiku.
> I personally prefer the freedom of being able to install linux, bsd, windows, and even weirder OSes like Haiku. I certainly don't think that matters to the vast majority of the population
The majority of the population is running a $300 laptop from Amazon. They certainly aren't popping used car money every 2-3 years like the real enthusiasts are.
Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
#103I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting, perhaps Apple will deign to make their ridiculously overpowered SOCs usable for general purpose computing. A man can dream..
Questions for you: 1. If you don't know what to do with it, why did you buy it? 2. If you wanted a general purpose computer, why did you buy an iPad? 3. Which iPadOS limitations are particularly painful for you?
There are other differences with the iPad Pro lineup unrelated to the SoC. It's just strange to think that a very capable laptop chip is being put into a device with far more limitations.
Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
#104Why would it have 9 cores? Feels a bit weird to have an (a) uneven and (b) not a power of two amount of cores on a processor.
Having one core dedicated to coordination tasks and maybe to get all interrupts when other 8 are churning things is always a good idea from my perspective (HPC admin and programmer).
Also Apple is not shy of odd numbered cores. iPad 2 had a tri-core GPU for example.
Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
#105Looks like an improvement over the M4 iPad of: Single Core: ~12% (3679 vs 4133) Multi Core: ~15% (13420 vs 15437) Which is in alignment historically with improvements from a new node improvement. https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/ipad-pro-13-inch-m...
> since M5 will be on the new (smaller) 2nm node
AFAIK the M5 is still 3nm being produced at the TSMC N3P node.
Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
#106It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.
Depends how you frame it; in my eyes, I'd be paying $1.4k USD after sales tax (at least here in the EU) for a laptop with measly 16 gigs of RAM… I could buy two normal laptops to outperform that for a price of one!
Honestly asking, can you use either of them for a decade?
From replacement parts and physical endurance perspective, I mean.
Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
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Think you are mistaken. The M4 beats the Ryzen AI 365 in both single and multicore benchmarks
M4 23884 365 29861 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M4+10+Core&id... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+AI+9+365&...
Interesting, on Geekbench they have very different scoring
365: 2515/12552 M4: 3763/14694
https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-ai-9-365 https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11020192
Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Think you are mistaken. The M4 beats the Ryzen AI 365 in both single and multicore benchmarks
M4 23884 365 29861 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M4+10+Core&id... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+AI+9+365&...
Passmark is an outdated benchmark not well optimized for ARM. Even so the single thread marks are 3864 (AI365) vs 4550 (M4)
OTOH, Geekbench correlates (0.99) with SPEC standards, the industry standard in CPU benchmark and what enterprise companies such as AWS use to judge a CPU performance.
https://medium.com/silicon-reimagined/performance-delivered-...
Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores
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> can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower That's sort of the funny thing here. Apple's situation is almost the perfect inverse of Intel's. Intel fell completely off the wagon[1], but they did so at exactly the moment where the arc of innovation hit a wall and could do the least damage. They're merely bad, but are still selling plenty of chips and their devices work... just fine! Apple, on t…
It’s surprising to me MacBooks have such low market share. I got my first Mac after using Windows all my life and I’m stunned. The laptop: 1. Lasts all day on battery 2. Doesn’t get hot 3. Compiles code twice as fast as my new Windows desktop I really don’t like macOS but I’ve shifted to recommending Mac to all my friends and family given the battery, portability and, and speed.
Regarding market share and your friends and family recommendations, you’re thinking first world. Rest of the world wants and can only afford sub-$500 laptops.
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Questions for you: 1. If you don't know what to do with it, why did you buy it? 2. If you wanted a general purpose computer, why did you buy an iPad? 3. Which iPadOS limitations are particularly painful for you?
There are other differences with the iPad Pro lineup unrelated to the SoC. It's just strange to think that a very capable laptop chip is being put into a device with far more limitations.
I'd rather that than an underpowered chip.
It was mentioned, as almost a side comment somewhere, that the M chip is in there for multitasking and higher end image/video editing for "Pros". I could certainly use the M4 in an iPad Pro for iPadOS 26 and it's multitasking. I run into occasional slowness when multitasking on my M2 iPad Air.