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Post by mattmaroon »

BenFranklin100 wrote: post #551
bdhess wrote: post #548

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Stinky is very qualitative. Maybe you grew up around tobacco smokers and so don’t mind the smell? I hate it. Quantitatively, marijuana smoke is less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke.

The smell from marijuana smoke lingers and travels in a way tobacco smoke does not. Most people other than users find it significantly more offensive than tobacco.

Disagree. If you’re at a concert and someone smokes weed everyone is like “right on”. You smoke a cigarette and people want to fight you.

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Post by mattmaroon »

refurb wrote: post #517
mannyv wrote: post #291

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People are talking about schedule 3 needing a prescription, etc. From the financial point of view that's irrelevant; the point is that you CANNOT legally sell schedule 1 drugs commercially (with some exceptions that I can't remember). Schedule 1 -> banned from the financial system. Schedule 3 -> OK to use the financial system. How the DEA schedule and the financial system interact is still unclear. The important part…

> Schedule 1 -> banned from the financial system. This is not true. Here is a legitimate business selling schedule 1 drugs: https://www.caymanchem.com/product/10801/mephedrone-(hydroch... Regulatory Information: DEA Schedule I With a schedule I DEA license, you can buy this product, and the manufacturer can deposit your money into a bank. That's why I'm not sure moving marijuana from schedule 1 to 2 or 3 will really…

Right. At the end of the day we need to just de-list it and strike all federal laws on it. The ship has sailed and the states won, let’s just do the inevitable thing and get on with it.

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Post by sorwin »

Honestly, we should look to fix the issues that lead to people depending on weed, alcohol, and other drugs instead.

These drugs are escapes for people - and a lot of them, especially younger kids get completely hooked on the escaped from reality from these drugs (including alcohol).

We should instead be limit the use of these drugs and have teams dedicated to studying why people are turning to these instead. It's OK to have them on the weekends, but most people I know who smoke weed are on it the majority of the time. Alcohol isn't much better - most do limit it to after hours / weekends, but there are a few who tend to overdo it.

From a biased point of view, I've had a few young family members and friends who turned to weed as their go-to for their daily lives, and it has changed their lifestyle, made them far less willing to live out their life and pursue actual goals. They definitely had both the potential and backing of their families (mid to high class) to do great, but chose to instead live a life of 'rotting away' in their words. Out of them only one has turned their life around (still smoking on weekends) citing that it made them not want to do absolutely anything in their day to day life.

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Post by sorwin »

BenFranklin100 wrote: post #554

There’s been no strong studies on the harmful effects of weed due to its illegal status. Now that is legal in many places, in 30 years we will know a lot more as this natural experiment unfolds. I would not be surprised if we see different but equally harmful effects. Let the experiment begin.

The issue is the prolonged constant daily use of it. Unlike alcohol, it's much easier to get by in the day with weed, and a lot of people do use it as that. It offers them an escape from reality without the full social repercussion of something like alcohol.

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Post by grobgambit »

mminer237 wrote: post #59
Scoundreller wrote: post #35

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Hasn’t really happened in Canada. I think a small-player alcohol company did move in, but only after the bubble popped. Turns out legalization of a drug doesn’t lead to massive increases in consumption. Who knew. Definitely kneecapped the black market though: most moved to the legal side and black market prices cratered.

Marijuana use has massively increased in the US as states have legalized it. Users have doubled: https://www.statista.com/statistics/264862/cannabis-consumpt... Use among users has also increased 20%: https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/962353

I have had my first legal weed experiences in the past year in New York and even the lowest THC % at the legal weed store is stronger than anything I use to get on the black market when weed was illegal.

Then there are these incredible 10mg THC infused lemonades that are amazing.

On the other hand, the novelty of legal weed only lasted about 4 months for me. Because the store was there and there was this selection I never had access to before I wanted to try different things and was smoking more than I would have normally. At the end of the day though it is all still just weed. It is fun for me but only once a month at most now.

I also don't know a single person that didn't smoke weed because it was illegal and now they do because they can go to the store and purchase it legally.

I think that the polling has doubled for users because people can answer the poll honestly when weed is legal. The idea that weed being illegal is keeping 50% of the potential weed smoking population from smoking is utterly preposterous.

If anything, what is interesting is how many people who would never try weed when it was illegal, will still never try it when it is legal. They may say it is because it is illegal or they don't want to smoke but you can't sell them on 10mg legal lemonaid either.

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Post by sorwin »

ada1981 wrote: post #317

What an embarrassment to anyone in the DEA or public policy in general that this is still a thing. Not sure how the DEA can consider itself a serious organization.

Hard to judge the DEAs effectiveness off something like this. You have very little insight on their actual effectiveness and workings on everything, yet your comment seems to summarize the entire organization off a completely biased political comment.
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