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Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by tiborsaas »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #280
Miraste wrote: post #223

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I've used both and Horizon Worlds' lack of development is mind-boggling. It's positioned as the crown jewel of the Metaverse, the core from which Facebook will build the rest of the concept, and yet it's so barebones it's like no one is even working on it. VRChat has completely user-made avatars. To support this, they have a robust content moderation system with a fair amount of user control, and bounded performance…

> world's largest social media company lagging behind a random startup This seems to be a really common recurring theme in the tech industry and particularly the games industry, and I wish I understood why Just look at Minecraft, Valheim, any of the recent Pokemon games... A single person or a skeleton crew can somehow always seem to outproduce gigantic companies full of engineers and artists on the same level as the…

I think this is because once you are a running on infinite cash, it becomes a no-brainer to apply what you've already learned to achieve that success. Also, stakeholders will require that. So pull in a bunch of management, MBA-s, designers, analysts, etc. What you end up with is lot of friction and no real innovation.

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Post by bni »

nickdothutton wrote: post #116
frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

Augmented reality will beat virtual reality.

AR, like it has been depicted in sci-fi where digital objects can be placed within the real environment in the users full field of view is very hard to do and is decades away, if even possible.

What some companies call AR today isn't, it's just a HUD. Those will all fail.

In the near term the opposite of real AR: "passthru-VR", for lack of better term with cameras taking in real world and merging it with a digital VR world, have a chance of becoming popular.

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Post by samstave »

navbaker wrote: post #103
jrochkind1 wrote: post #66

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When you saw only one set of tracking cookies, it was then that Mark Zuckerberg was carrying you.

I feel like there needs to be a hyper-specific term for when the CEO of a social media company personally directs the ads targeted to you based off what he observes of your behavior by shoulder surfing your internet browsing.

BookFacing

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Post by alangibson »

Facebook pivoting to focus on the metaverse will be one of the greatest business case studies of this century.

They'll either own the entire next generation of the Internet, or faceplant so hard they end up being a marginal Craigslist replacement.

Given that the Meta rebrand was received as if they'd just offered to turn everyone's lives into a permanent Zoom call, I'm in the faceplant camp for now.

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Post by rnoises »

Pretty much every comment is relating this to Meta and it's pivot to the metaverse, but isn't this far more likely to be fallout from her attempts to pressure Daily Mail into not reporting on her then-boyfriend, Bobby Kotick? https://www.wsj.com/articles/sandberg-facebook-kotick-activi...

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Post by sterlind »

thewebcount wrote: post #305
mhewett wrote: post #296

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Not everyone. Everyone I know loved it.

Likewise! In fact, it was the first time my disabled spouse was able to get some family to talk to her since now they were in the same situation. It also opened up a bunch of services for disabled people since now everyone needed delivery and not answering the door for packages was no longer weird.

yeah, that's real. I'd lost a lot of connection with friends after my mobility deteriorated, and then suddenly I had a mahjong social club every Thursday with old friends! I didn't feel outcast for being shut-in.

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Post by Siira »

HWR_14 wrote: post #370
berberous wrote: post #364

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Well, I strongly disagree. I would be shocked if VR/metaverse does not massively grow within the next 10 years. I think the headsets alone will continue to get massively better which will convert most of humanity, just like how much better iPhones got since the first one. In fact, I would bet anything on the foregoing, as I have near total confidence in that aspect. It’s much harder to figure out which companies will…

> Just like people buy iPhones not withstanding the cost, moderation, App Store tax, etc, because the iPhone is what users want. Unless you jailbreak it or turn on scary developer mode all those apply on Android too. Hell, iPhones are cheaper than some Android flagships now.

You can install APKs directly on Android. It only takes one not-that-scary checkbox.

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Post by dbbk »

colinmhayes wrote: post #361
dbbk wrote: post #257

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> What people want is an escape from reality. I don't think this is even broadly true. We just locked everyone in their houses for the pandemic and people hated it. They want to get out and do stuff and see the world. Not sit on a couch with a screen strapped to their face.

> We just locked everyone in their houses for the pandemic and people hated it. Feel like this is not consensus on a tech forum.

That's why I said "broadly true". Obviously there will be some that enjoyed it. But I do not think that was the case for the majority.

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Post by dbbk »

nickysielicki wrote: post #400
frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…

To add to this, Facebook Events have been (and continue to be) almost exclusively how sports teams and societies organise events in UK universities. I don't think there really is even a viable competitor to this... Meetup charges organisers to use it.

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Post by dbbk »

mmaunder wrote: post #359
frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

Don’t confuse investor sobriety after an epic party with strategic miscalculation. Zuck is taking a gamble. Good for him. It’s extremely rare for a big co to have the balls and for leadership to have the autonomy to do this these days. He has both. He may fail. But at least he took a big hairy audacious risky shot at first to market and a chance at being what Steve Jobs is to smart phones. I wouldn’t count him out ju…

I think it's important to note too that he can only really make this big, audacious bet because he is the controlling shareholder. Most other big companies wouldn't be able to get a consensus to agree to something this big a gamble.
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