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Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by kube-system »

MrWiffles wrote: post #181

I haven’t seen this anywhere when I’ve looked, so I’ll ask here on the slim chance maybe they really added something I badly want and somebody knows… Is there any application forced sandboxing feature yet? Something users can control to forcibly stop bad behavior from certain “must have” apps. Chrome, for example, has been caught doing entire drive scans on Windows, and I’m not sure I entirely trust Zoom either. So I…

> Something users can control to forcibly stop bad behavior from certain “must have” apps. Chrome, for example, has been caught doing entire drive scans on Windows, and I’m not sure I entirely trust Zoom either.

I just upgraded to Monterey and OneDrive asked for permissions to a bunch of folders it didn’t need. I denied them. I doubt it’s bad behavior, probably just lazy permissions requests, but I’m glad I had the option.

Re: macOS Monterey

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MrWiffles wrote: post #181

I haven’t seen this anywhere when I’ve looked, so I’ll ask here on the slim chance maybe they really added something I badly want and somebody knows… Is there any application forced sandboxing feature yet? Something users can control to forcibly stop bad behavior from certain “must have” apps. Chrome, for example, has been caught doing entire drive scans on Windows, and I’m not sure I entirely trust Zoom either. So I…

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Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by circularfoyers »

dual_dingo wrote: post #491
hnarn wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't Arch Linux we're talking about, it's the presumably tested and released operating system for the most premium personal computing hardware in the world. I'm not saying you shouldn't back up your stuff but your expectation on user behavior is unrealistic to put it mildly.

I am not very experienced with Arch, but my impression is that it is actually more reliable when updating/upgrading then going to a new major MacOS release, which is an absolute disagrace given the fact that Apple can actually test their stuff on every single hardware model it is supposed to run. And no, my experience on general user behaviour is to expect no backup, but this isn't Auntie Ednas crocheting Facebook gr…

I think the notable difference is that macOS has a standard release cycle of about a year, whereas Arch has a rolling release cycle. This why there's more possibility for breakage, as many of the core libraries or other software are likely having their versions bumped. This is based on my knowledge of how most standard release distros function and which I assume is Apple's update policy for software they ship.

Even assuming this is the case, it still doesn't excuse how they weren't able to uncover this in their testing, since they only have to test against their own set of hardware.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by rreichel03 »

ehakan wrote: post #115

The Macbook Pro 16" thermal throttling problems with external monitors [1] finally seems to be fixed with Monterey by enabling low power mode. (At least with 16:9 60Hz monitors). I've been dealing with `kernel_task` hitting 900% CPU usage and the entire window server running at 2 FPS when using external monitors since I got the mbp 16" a year ago. Good riddance. [1]: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noi…

I experienced this and found that switching to connecting via the right side USB C ports rather than the left side fixes thermal issues. It’s explained a bit more in this SO post: https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/363933

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by beowulfey »

ksec wrote: post #469
forgotmyoldname wrote: post #372

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I use Photoshop for art. Unfortunately, all other desktop software just isn't good, but thankfully Procreate is absolutely amazing software that I can use on my iPad (if you're reading this, devs, please port it to macOS. There are countless artists that'll pay to switch to a non-subscription based, non-Adobe piece of software that doesn't suck). But for desktop, I really have no choice but to buy into the Adobe sche…

>but thankfully Procreate is absolutely amazing software that I can use on my iPad There seems to be a recurring praise for ProCreate. At least every time Photoshop comes up ProCreate is mentioned. ( I even have to search they are not coming from the same user ) I guess I will have to add it to list of research topics.

It is great but iPad only. I wish it had a macos version.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by endymi0n »

hnarn wrote: post #481
dual_dingo wrote: post #473

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> I just upgraded to Monterey > I started to panic and figure out how I was going to back everything up. Upgrading to a new OS on release day without a prior backup. You like to live dangerously, do you?

This isn't Arch Linux we're talking about, it's the presumably tested and released operating system for the most premium personal computing hardware in the world. I'm not saying you shouldn't back up your stuff but your expectation on user behavior is unrealistic to put it mildly.

Personally, I really didn't regret waiting for 11.1 back then... unfortunately this wasn't the first bugged major release.

While Apple's hardware and product interop is still top notch, I feel way less safe about their grip on low-level and OS technology. For me, the (lack of) handling of their bug bounty program speaks volumes towards their priorities and I'm actively looking for the next platform that I can trust my data to that works out of the box and I don't have to babysit or debug.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by kube-system »

josephg wrote: post #322
0xFACEFEED wrote: post #290

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I need this so badly. True story: I've been eagerly awaiting a new Macbook to completely rid myself of Adobe software. Over the past decade I've considered installing Adobe software but always held back because of how intrusive and shady the software is (I checked on friends' computers). I've been able to work around having to edit PDFs and used Figma in place of Photoshop for my very basic graphical needs. Well a fe…

> Well a few months ago I needed to fill out customs form 5106. This form uses some kind of proprietary Adobe PDF form creation software thing PSA in case anyone doesn't know this: the built-in Preview app on MacOS can be used to fill in any PDF form. You can type into text boxes on some forms. But even if they're not there, you can add text anywhere on a pdf. You just have to drag your own text boxes to wherever you…

This works to make a form that looks okay on your screen or when printed. It will not make a form that works correctly if the recipient wants to process it using proprietary Acrobat features.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by simion314 »

dual_dingo wrote: post #491
hnarn wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't Arch Linux we're talking about, it's the presumably tested and released operating system for the most premium personal computing hardware in the world. I'm not saying you shouldn't back up your stuff but your expectation on user behavior is unrealistic to put it mildly.

I am not very experienced with Arch, but my impression is that it is actually more reliable when updating/upgrading then going to a new major MacOS release, which is an absolute disagrace given the fact that Apple can actually test their stuff on every single hardware model it is supposed to run. And no, my experience on general user behaviour is to expect no backup, but this isn't Auntie Ednas crocheting Facebook gr…

>I am not very experienced with Arch, but my impression is that it is actually more reliable

It is only an impressions, Arch fanboyus will quietly try to fix the mess and blame themselves for the bugs, only some honest users will tell you straight in the face "never update Arch without first reading some news page and never update if you don't hve the time to rollback and fix shit".

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by unmole »

dual_dingo wrote: post #473
crawrey wrote: post #444

I just upgraded to Monterey on my Macbook Pro 2018 15-inch and after rebooting, all of the USB-C ports stopped working, including the power adapter. I spent some time on the phone with Apple Support trying to figure out how to fix it. After about an hour and a half there was about 18% battery left before I started to panic and figure out how I was going to back everything up. After panicking, the 3rd Apple Support Re…

> I just upgraded to Monterey > I started to panic and figure out how I was going to back everything up. Upgrading to a new OS on release day without a prior backup. You like to live dangerously, do you?

I never had to worry about making a backup before upgrading Linux distros. I mean, what's the worst that could happen when your /home lives on a different partition?

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by fnord123 »

shawnz wrote: post #222
fnord123 wrote: post #216

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Reboot for an upgrade happens by holding a spin lock until it overheats and reboots. This happens every time on multiple computers so I think it's intentional(?) but the crash reports are pretty wild. No official package manager. The Macbook cases ground through the user when they're on an insulated surface (there is no ground pin on the Macbook power adapters). Audio crackles when the machine grounds through the use…

They are grounded if you use the "power adapter extension cable" (not shipped with the unit): https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/MK122LL/A/power-adapte...

This is Emporers new clothes territory. How can a >2k EUR machine ground through the user unless they purchase extra add-ons. I don't know why there's not a class action law suit on this.
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