Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

foxnews.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

561–570 of 814 posts

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#561

Post by crazy_horse »

lettergram wrote: post #542
downandout wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a fascinating tweet on many levels. 1) I think it's safe to assume that Joe Biden has no SEO expertise, which means that someone with the power to send the President of the United States out for a photo op does. They went out and found someone named Brandon for Biden to pose for a photo op with. 2) To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. 3…

> To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. Does this really surprise you? - The opposing parties leadership is censored more than every authoritarian around the world. - stories about Biden’s son is censored - bad stories about Biden are censored - every person connected to the opposing party is being “investigated” - the DOJ literally sent out a s…

This is gross. It's gross because you're right, there are a lot of things that politcians get a pass on. That's not okay.

But you are making ridiculous absurd statements. No, not everyone in the other part is getting investigated. No, not anyone who claimed interference is getting threatened. How would that be possible if up until the last week (and going well into the future), we're discussing this stuff?

This absurd hyperbole ruins whatever valid points you have because you look like the kind of commenter that HN was supposedly above, but for some reason dang decided to bump this explicitly political bs (with the expected political comments) to the front page. We didn't even try to get a better source than fox news?

If you care about this stuff (and you should), you need to disconnect it from political stuff. You're jumping in bed with people that lie.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#562

Post by twofornone »

TameAntelope wrote: post #148
twofornone wrote: post #37

Tech bros are now the gatekeepers of information for hundreds of millions of eyes (not just youtube, also google search manipulation, facebook algos, arguably outlets like netflix...maybe not Amazon yet) and here about half of the western world is cheering on the suppression. How can someone place so much trust in this suppression without even seeing what's being censored? Is it just a deliberate blissful ignorance?…

Well, it's not tech bros so much as it's the people failing to know where to get their information. Tech bros gon' tech bro, why would you try to get your news from them?

Yeah, sure, I get it, you get it, but how many people do you think realize that the programmers at google effectively gatekeep search results?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#563

Post by pstuart »

downandout wrote: post #547
lettergram wrote: post #542

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. Does this really surprise you? - The opposing parties leadership is censored more than every authoritarian around the world. - stories about Biden’s son is censored - bad stories about Biden are censored - every person connected to the opposing party is being “investigated” - the DOJ literally sent out a s…

It's only surprising in that they have, to this point, largely shrugged off criticism. Jenn Psaki, for example, has been extremely dismissive of any criticism whatsoever. Now, I think they are realizing that the (white)house is on fire, and it appears that they feel like they have to respond and cannot dismiss/gaslight their way out of it.

So your concern is nepotism, right? Or is it tribal politics?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#564

Post by clairity »

adventured wrote: post #328
fabianhjr wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a true symbiosis: the Party will see that no laws that harm the Company are passed, and Company will stop the spread of any information harmful to the Party. Probably no relation with the 2014 Princeton study published on the Cambridge University Press that determined the United States of America to be an Oligarchy rather than a Democracy. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-poli... > Bu…

If the Presidency were an oligarchy, neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama could have become President. And Trump could have never won, since most of the power groups were overwhelmingly against him winning, and he won solely due to his populist voter base - democracy in action in fact. Trump also raised drastically less money than Hillary Clinton did; if there's an oligarchy trying to pick presidents it was against…

you've just perhaps inadvertently explained why trump is/was so popular, despite being a self-centered idiot. he was able to stick a thumb in the eye of the american oligarchs, and that felt to many americans like a sliver of hope against the hegemonization of america.

but that our political system isn't a full-on autocratic aristocracy doesn't mean it isn't oligarchal. oligarchy implies an outsized influence by a small subset, not complete control, just as democracy doesn't mean complete control by the people. oligarchy seems a pretty apt characterization.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#565

Post by amanaplanacanal »

Zuider wrote: post #539
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #524

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, also threat of losing advertisers, which is their major source of income.

In many cases, advertisers have been pressured by activists on pain of having their brand actively smeared by those activists. This leaves the question open as to how much advertisers would be motivated to withdraw their custom, absent such campaigns, or the chilling effect of the possibility of such activism.

Well sure, but that’s part of the free market, and has nothing to do with pressure from the government. The government pressure story is just not convincing to me.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#566

Post by [deleted] »

fullshark wrote: post #548
calsy wrote: post #239

In most cases, well publicised censorship of art backfires and provides more notoriety and fans for the artist.

In most of the cases you remember you mean, in the vast majority of the time you never heard about it and it was successful.

[deleted]

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#567

Post by crazy_horse »

twofornone wrote: post #555
_kbh_ wrote: post #546

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. > - anyone who has claimed election interference on the 2020 election has been threatened with lawsuits, lost jobs, etc I feel this is an especially interesting claim because the only people i've seen get hit with law suits for this have continually defamed specific companies and not j…

>I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. This is effectively a disingenuous argument when the evidence clearly suggests that so called "reliable sources" are colluding to suppress content that is inconvenient for their political leanings. Incidentally it also ensures that all of wikipedia leans left, since any outlets which…

What evidence suggests that the entire party is being investigated? Who is hiding that?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#568

Post by pstuart »

downandout wrote: post #549
_kbh_ wrote: post #546

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. > - anyone who has claimed election interference on the 2020 election has been threatened with lawsuits, lost jobs, etc I feel this is an especially interesting claim because the only people i've seen get hit with law suits for this have continually defamed specific companies and not j…

I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to argue that the Hunter Biden stories weren't suppressed until after the election. Those stories and corresponding evidence were around before the election. They were completely buried wherever possible, and dismissed as conspiracy theories by the mainstream media when they couldn't bury them. It was only after the election that they were forced to admit that the Hunter Biden sto…

What is your concern? Nepotism? Do you have any such concern for the conduct of the children of the previous president?

HN is not the place for this. Save this for reddit or facebook.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

#570

Post by clairity »

geofft wrote: post #236
fabianhjr wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just create and apply better anti-trust laws and break up the monopolies. (Specially since most platforms got their almost monopolies by creating anti-competitive walled gardens with no inter-operation with other similar platforms a la Fediverse / ActivityPub / Diaspora / Friendica) Or better yet, promote counter-anti-desintermediation: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Counter-Anti-Disintermediatio... > The idea of dis…

The most coherent plans in recent times to do exactly that came from Elizabeth Warren. It would have solved the problem elegantly. But people are too partisan (and too fractally partisan within their parties) to listen to a good idea from a person they don't like. https://medium.com/@teamwarren/heres-how-we-can-break-up-big...

warren had a more coherent policy package than any other candidate, but from what i remember, some of her proposals showed clear detachment from actual on-the-ground issues vs. academic idealism. it's just like how 'progressivism' has been co-opted by ultra-liberal/socialist factions to mean 'spend as much as possible on social programs, consequences be damned', which we're seeing in the current stimulus package debate.

her proposals on how to deal with consolidated power and capital at the top are/were more reasonable, but that's because she's has a more visceral experience in that arena, rather than with poverty, housing, or immigration issues, for example.

Post reply on HN