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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by dane-pgp »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #27
[deleted] wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> The single line referencing COVID is this: "Green light, mandate Inaccurate. The line "Pandemic ain't real, they just planned it" is also referencing COVID, and pushing a false and dangerous conspiracy theory about it.

Perhaps instead of censoring the song, YouTube could require that the uploader include at the end of it an explanation of what it means for a pandemic to not be "real". Does it mean that COVID doesn't exist, and people are just pretending to have symptoms? Is that what "they" planned?

By actually getting people to talk through their beliefs, and state them clearly, society might be able to consider all opinions and have a conversation, rather than accepting the idea that our technological gatekeepers can be trusted to evaluate them correctly on our behalf.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by ResearchCode »

bitwize wrote: post #132
mimikatz wrote: post #41

https://variety.com/2021/music/news/youtube-will-not-ban-yg-... When songs promote robbing Asian people YouTube says “ In a memo to staff explaining the rationale for not barring the YG video, management wrote: “We’ll start by saying we find this video to be highly offensive and understand it is painful for many to watch, including many in Trust & Safety and especially given the ongoing violence against the Asian com…

YouTube has a very clear policy that only one opinion on COVID-19 is allowed on their platform. They are enforcing that policy.

And govt. totally didn't push for that exceptional "policy", it arose from the first principles of free market competition. Any apparent similarity to moderation on Weibo, TikTok or Bilibili is purely coincidental.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by fabianhjr »

pmurt7 wrote: post #136

Something is wrong when the king needs to censor the jester.

I don't understand the allegories to feudalism when jesters who crossed a line weren't censored but executed. (I would guess specially if they expressed or supported any sort of anti-monarchy or anti-their-monarchs viewpoints)

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by shlurpy »

jayski wrote: post #65

i disagree with censoring. but i want to pose a question. if i have q WordPress blog on a $5vps, and you post a comment saying my blog post is stupid. its my vps,im paying for it, i can delete the comment if i want right? where do you draw the line? how big exactly does my blog have to get before this is considered big tech censorship?

A lot of "rights" should scale inversely with power, to counteract how their effectiveness scales positively with power. The idea behind universal Democracy is that you should have collective power over everyone who has meaningful authority over you.

The power weilded by a government should be kept in check democratically by their constituents. As your blog grows into YouTube, you gain more and more power over people's lives and livelihoods... more political and economic reach with your decisions. That power should thus grow proportionally more limited by mechanisms of user empowerment, rights, and direct control.

There isn't a cutoff... there should instead be a sliding scale.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by andrekandre »

rhexs wrote: post #180
skulk wrote: post #166

Something's wrong when the jester is found to have played a huge part in electing a leader of a leading world power.

How dare the lowly jester, part of the serf class, have any say in electing a leader. Only divine right and having went to Harvard should qualify a leader!

  > Only divine right and having went to Harvard should qualify a leader!
basically it used to be like that!

in the old days, you had to be:

1. a land owner 2. white* 3. male

in order to vote at all... we've come a long way...

*in those days that was very specific and didn't include italians, irish etc

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

chrisco255 wrote: post #158
jayski wrote: post #65

i disagree with censoring. but i want to pose a question. if i have q WordPress blog on a $5vps, and you post a comment saying my blog post is stupid. its my vps,im paying for it, i can delete the comment if i want right? where do you draw the line? how big exactly does my blog have to get before this is considered big tech censorship?

You draw the line when you have a monopoly company with a trillion dollar market cap.

Are they a monopoly? They seem to have plenty of competition.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by [deleted] »

no_butterscotch wrote: post #159
wodenokoto wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Biden said the jab stop the spread, it was lies (I remember) How you woke, but you haven't opened your eyes? (You ain't see) I mean, I know there are pockets of people who believe that saying vaccines don’t work is telling the truth, but broadly speaking, saying that vaccines are fake and don’t work is considered misinformation related to medicine.

He didn't say they didn't work? He said it was lies that they stop the spread. We now know of vaccinated people dying of covid, some right after being vaxxed, some months after, some after getting a second dose. The lyrics can be interpreted a few ways. Was the vaccine then supposed to absolutely stop the spread and give absolute protection to a vaccinated person?

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by hobomatic »

JohnHaugeland wrote: post #165
throwawayboise wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it really matter? Clearly it would be in the realm of satire or political humor, things liberals have historically been very vocal about protecting.

[flagged]

you know, sport, it isn't necessary to call everyone you disagree with 'champ'.

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Post by fabianhjr »

chrisco255 wrote: post #158
jayski wrote: post #65

i disagree with censoring. but i want to pose a question. if i have q WordPress blog on a $5vps, and you post a comment saying my blog post is stupid. its my vps,im paying for it, i can delete the comment if i want right? where do you draw the line? how big exactly does my blog have to get before this is considered big tech censorship?

You draw the line when you have a monopoly company with a trillion dollar market cap.

Just create and apply better anti-trust laws and break up the monopolies. (Specially since most platforms got their almost monopolies by creating anti-competitive walled gardens with no inter-operation with other similar platforms a la Fediverse / ActivityPub / Diaspora / Friendica)

Or better yet, promote counter-anti-desintermediation: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Counter-Anti-Disintermediatio...

> The idea of disintermediation was central to the emancipatory visions of the Internet, yet the landscape today is more mediated than ever before. If we are to understand the consequences of an increasingly centralized Internet, we need to start by addressing the root cause of this concentration. Centralization is required to capture profit. Disintermediating platforms were ultimately reintermediated by way of capitalist investors dictating that communications systems be designed to capture profit.

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