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Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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post #412

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Please, some common sense. Google is one of the wealthist and powerful companies in the world. RH is one app out of millions in their play store. No one at Google is stupid enough to do RH a favor. It's not the first time nor the last time they do something like like this. Their tos doesn't allow rating manipulation, which clearly happened here. They don't care if it justified or not.

All the insane conspiracy theories floating around, by people who mostly have no idea how trading/margin works, that this is just mean ol’ hedge funds trying to screw the little guy... I’m suddenly afraid of Trump 2.0, except he or she is gonna be a lot more competent and brutal. Jan 6 was just the warmup. There is so much wrath, envy, and greed out there, and so much willingness to believe whatever fits one’s precon…

Exactly! Today I saw a clip at the top of Reddit of a CNBC clip that was clearly manipulated to generate outrage, but only one person out of thousands even mentioned it in the comments

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#563
post #473

Probably an automated system, detecting reviews by people who haven't actually used the app. Google is basically an AI-run company at this point.

Nightski's comment suggests strongly that this is an incorrect guess.

Why? Nightski doesn't say whether they actually used the app.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#564
post #450

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The laws enforced by the SEC

If so, then prosecute. Which law specifically?

I'm assuming you're trying to corner a point of "You cannot cite a specific law because it doesn't exist" without outright saying it.

It seems plain that, at best, Robinhood has violated its fiduciary, and at worst manipulated the market. This is one of those things I've come to understand as being illegal in the same way that I know insider trading is illegal. No, I cannot cite which law makes insider trading illegal.

Maybe you're right and there is no law. I personally don't have the time or experience to go digging through legal text to treat HN like an official courthouse. We will know by the results of the lawsuits, or by a video from the Legal Eagle on YouTube.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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This is brigading - people were not reviewing the app (which the app rating is supposed to measure), but retaliating against a (valid) slight from Robinhood. Seen in that light, the recent mass voting is noise.

Whats the difference between the app and the service the app provides from the perspective of a user of the app?

There are multiple ways to access the Robinhood service. The service itself may be great (e.g. via website), but the app terrible (crashes, bad UI, slow, etc).

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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post #387

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I agree it’s emergent behavior; that’s not inconsistent with my comment. The unionization risk thing isn’t made up. Amazon’s warehouse unionization risk rubric includes racial diversity as an anti-union measure.

> racial diversity as an anti-union measure Could you elaborate?

The effect is measured to exist, but any attempt at explanation is just conjecture. That said, it seems pretty clear to me that racially homogenous groups tend to have closer social ties and are therefore more likely to unionize.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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post #386

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Correct; “diversity” is shorthand for “racial Leninism”. It’s primarily about paying people off with status subsidies. Asians don’t need status subsidies so they don’t benefit from this system

I don't really see any political reason for this type of discrimination. It's just racism that nobody talks about because it's Asians who are seemingly well off economically when in reality the wealth disparity in this demographic is one of the widest. People see fu er dai students driving Lamborghini and think thats how all Asians live when in fact Asia is not even a country. For instance, its socially acceptable to…

East Asians are well off economically.

If you’re confused about any of this, your model is broken. All you need to know is that East Asians are high IQ (within 0.3stddev of anglo or Germanic whites). This predicts everything else, including economic outcomes.

Asians don’t get “diversity” points because they can’t be bribed with status subsidies; they are already high status (doctors, engineers, etc.) because of their intelligence.

Slurs against Asians are less offensive because the connotation of being Asian is bad. No one would seriously use Asian as an insult. If there’s an ethnic group where calling someone a word for that ethnic group is horribly offensive, it’s because deep down people understand that this group is usually low status. Slurs like “kraut” or “nip” don’t really have any weight because they’re basically complements.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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At this point I'm almost convinced that CIA (or perhaps one of its rivals) is running some psy-op on the citizenry. It's as if they'll get a bonus as soon as a million Americans die of covid. (hmmm... maybe we should watch for big spenders later this year...) Everything that comes out of CNN, the social media firms, etc. seems calculated to make most Americans less likely to submit to vaccination. I say this while we…

While I agree in some ways... let me ask you, how do you know you are on the “right” side of any mask or Covid or vax debate? You get your news from the same places “the people who are wrong” do. It’s a thought experiment; not an implication.

First of all, I don't get my news from those places. It has taken over a decade, but after flipping the bozo bit on dozens of news media firms, I feel I am a bit closer to having some idea of what's going on. If all you have is e.g. NBC News, then assuming that all the "wishful thinking" (which at times is over half of the content: "this time we've found a war we can win!") is exactly wrong will get you pretty close.

Second, you don't have to read the news to know that people are dying. In vulnerable populations, the increase is impossible to hide, especially since no one has gotten the flu this year. Old physicians and researchers who aren't trying to build their personal brands all agree (and have agreed since February last year) that masks and isolation are the ways to cope with respiratory pandemics. I'm hopeful for the vaccines, but I fear they won't deal well with the mutations that have never been conclusively ruled out. At the very least, vaccines are unlikely to harm people who don't have some sort of weird precondition. Besides which, unlike 99% of USA healthcare, they're free.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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post #496

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It’s an app for trading stocks. Suddenly I can’t use it to trade stocks. One star is warranted.

This seems a lot like giving the Amazon app one star because something was out of stock.

But nothing was "out of stock". They just decided you can't buy?

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#570

OK what? What the f%#$ is going on here?!! What triggered Alphabet to suddenly get involved? I'm assuming that these reviews didn't appear recently, suddenly or something. Discord shuts down WallStreetBets and reddit throttle them.. both for hate speech. Suddenly, simultaneously and coincidentally during their maneuver. The CEO of the NASDAQ rushes to a camera calling for SEC scrutiny and tightening regulation, weari…

> What triggered Alphabet to suddenly get involved? I'm assuming that these reviews didn't appear recently, suddenly or something.

They did appear recently. The latest pre-today copy of the page at archive.org [1] had it at 166469 reviews (average a tad over 4 stars). That was from 2020-11-17.

The next copy there was at 14:06 today (2021-01-28) [2]. It's up to 196808 reviews (average 2.5 stars). They captured it several mores times today. Here's a table.

  14:06  196808
  17:17  295104
  18:24  306315
  19:17  327577
  20:22  330648
  21:02  319501
  21:36  246084
  22:25  202305
and they have two captures from tomorrow:

  00:24  180490
  02:23  178221
If we play it safe and assume that all the reviews as of 14:06 today were old reviews, there was a minimum of 133840 reviews today, which would have been 40% of the total reviews. More realistically, if we go with about 170k old reviews, it's more like 160k reviews today representing almost 50% of all reviews.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20201117224019/https://play.goog...

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20201117224019/https://play.goog...

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