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wait though, bc i really dont see it in any of these articles: who has been hacked?

The NY Post claims Hunter Biden's or one of his associates' laptops was hacked.

Which would imply the story is true, but that won't stop HN white knights from claiming otherwise. Even after

> The Biden campaign did not dispute the veracity of the emails

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Ok, but I've never seen the media ever publicly discuss document verification in a story. Stories about Trump's tax returns don't include any sort of explanation about verification. They wouldn't even publish the documents in order to keep the source secret. So I don't think its reasonable to assume the lack of easy confirmation means it is necessarily fake.

Perhaps you just haven't read the newspaper much. "So-and-so McOfficial confirmed the authenticity of the documents" is standard copy. This is a result for just googling "confirmed the authenticity of the emails": https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/12/trump-contr...

So something like

> The Biden campaign did not dispute the veracity of the emails

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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post #234

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This post has a very odd tone, as if a private company enforcing their policy to remove unverified & leaked personal correspondence of a private citizen is some unquestionable moral wrongdoing that's apparently going to blow up. Surprised to see this as at the top, on HN. National Review is a conservative wing-nut website trying to turn this non-story into fuel for their censorship culture war.

Did twitter censor all stories regarding the claim that Trump paid $750 in taxes? In case the point I’m making isn’t obvious: the NYT never published their source for that, and still haven’t. If twitter is removing stories for having dubious sources, then that story should not pass muster either. If they’re removing stories for having “hacked” (or in the case of both this story about Hunter Biden, or Trumps taxes: “l…

That's a bizarre comparison, because Trump has repeatedly lies about being willing but unable to release his own copy of his tax returns. And the NY Times didn't publish personal documents, they published facts about a certain class of personal documents (tax documents of a Presidential candidate) which for decades have been considered public information by all major corners of the political arena.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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post #300

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The provenance of the files is not questioned by far-right political operatives like Sean Davis who are pushing this story in the first place, but to anybody with half a brain cell and an ounce of skepticism the whole story stinks. Just listen to this interview with the owner of the repair shop these files purportedly came from, who changes his story about a half-dozen times in the span of sixty minutes: https://www.…

I hear your objection. Here is a fair and balanced coverage of the document's provenance by a 3rd party, uninvolved, newspaper: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8841255/Man-Hunter-...

I don't understand. The Daily Mail pretty clearly debunks your earlier claims and highlights the shadiness of the alleged source of the laptops.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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This was a shockingly dumb move. Whether or not you think these actions were politically motivated or made in good faith, it just poured liquid oxygen on the "reform section 230" fire you're seeing from both sides of the aisle - one using the censorship reason, the other using the disinformation reason. There's no way you don't block a newspaper, and the press secretary, and prevent anyone from even private messaging…

I agree they blundered here. They don't want to be hijacked by another "leaks" story days before the election but now the suppression of this has become the entire story, and its convinced a lot of people the story is true and dangerous to Biden. Even if the email is true I don't see how its dangerous and if the only media carrying the story are the NY Post and Fox it doesn't hurt Biden.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. Classic Barbara Streisand effect

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post #509

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I don't think having more positive stories about a Democratic president makes a publication left-leaning, especially given that Obama is the only president in recent memory not actively involved in some scandalous behavior. This is coming from someone who did not agree with most of Obama's policy decisions but at least could respect his integrity.

Obama had his share of scandals (and I am not saying that to downplay the clusterfuck that is the Trump admin; Obama's pale in comparison, but they are still there), like IRS targeting of right wing orgs, Operation Fast and Furious, drone-ing (of US citizens), all the Snowden revelations, and "Obama's war on whistleblowers" (as The Guardian called it), for example. Or other things like the "De-Ba'athification" policy…

Fast & Furious was indeed a scandal as you and others have rightly pointed out but other than that I think we disagree on what a scandal is, I think there needs to be general public outrage for a scandal and we didn't see that except for with Fast & Furious. Sadly, our society didn't care about the US killing one of its citizens extrajudicially. I'm sure we'll look back on that behavior with regret as a nation in the future but I don't see that regret now.

The IRS targeting of right wing orgs was indeed a scandal but it turned out to not be true [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

#568

Facebook also censors joebiden.info in private messages

Works for me on the desktop version, i.e. it isn't censored, I haven't checked though in their direct Facebook Messenger app. Also, am not from the US, have sent the joebiden.info link for testing to my gf who's also not from the US.

Facebook and Twitter blocks items in the US that they do not block internationally.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

#569
When I was in high school, our network had software, perfectly branded as "Net Nanny" installed which prevented us from visiting certain websites. It was totally lame.

I can't understand why my generation wants to recreate Net Nanny on facebook and twitter. It just adds to the 2020 feeling that everything, all at once, is completely falling apart.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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post #76

Whatever your perspective, directly verifiable censorship like this is just begging for legal trouble and monopoly investigations. Tactically speaking, I would say this is a massive mistake from Twitter.

This is what I don't get. People are screaming for digital channels to not allow disinformation even though they are just a passive communication channel. Is anyone screaming at printing presses for printing the NY Post? It's a garbage publication and this information is at least suspicious, but why are we holding Twitter to such a high standard of integrity and not actually journalists?

They're not passive

NY Post has always been trash and will always remain trash

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