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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by WalterGR »

djsumdog wrote: post #57
WalterGR wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The Ministry of Truth and the protagonist of 1984, it’s employee, were engaged in revising the written record to make it match what the Party wanted in the present. They were also the only source of information. Twitter is not doing the former and isn’t the latter, so equating it with Minitrue is 100% factually incorrect.

Sure not everything matches up. The Ministry of Truth was government, but in America the same type of group exists and it's private. They don't have to rewrite history. They're rewriting the present.

They're rewriting the present.

That’s typically referred to, at its most specific: fact checking, less specifically: news reporting, and most generally: making a claim of fact... when one disagrees with the check, report, or claim.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

drcongo wrote: post #55
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's different because it was written by a major American newspaper. Twitter should not be exercising editorial control over the news.

Is the NY Post considered a serious newspaper over there?

It's one of those papers in the strange intersection of "mainstream tabloid". It's clearly not serious, as you can see from a quick glance at their typical cover pages, but it's also not one of the papers everyone knows is untrustworthy schlock.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by throwawa3495 »

Barrin92 wrote: post #56
throwawa3495 wrote: post #29

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Oh, i definitely agree that as a private company Twitter is well within its rights to censor what it believes is "misinformation" but an important line has been crossed today by Twitter and Facebook. A story about potential corruption of a candidate for the US president has been censored by two of the largest information brokers in the world. Also interestingly, no denial from Joe Biden about the authenticity of thes…

>Wouldnt that be the first thing you'd do if this wasnt true? If i was Joe Biden and the yellow press came after me honestly I'd do exactly what Joe Biden does and ignore them rather than giving them oxygen. If people like Biden or Clinton responded every time someone tries to capitalise on some bullshit attached to their name they'd not be doing anything else

Biden put a "lid" on speaking directly to the press today. idk folks, i was born at night but it wasn't last night.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by dang »

We changed the URL from https://twitter.com/sohrabahmari/status/1316446749729398790 to an article with more information. If there's a more informative source, we can change it again.

Edit: I've changed it from https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/facebook-twitter-block-the-pos... to what looks like it may be a more neutral source. Other users have supplied these related links:

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-hunter-joe-bid...

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden...

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by gscott »

alkonaut wrote: post #34
throwawa3495 wrote: post #20

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it's honestly irrelevant about the credibility of the emails and other data at this point, its the blanket censorship of this article that's now the real story.

In a normal situation, publication would be followed by scrutiny, possibly correction, more information. Incorrect information isn’t such a big problem then. One major problem right now is that it’s 3 weeks from an election. Scrutiny and fact checks would risking being only after the election. I’m happy to see the requirements for credibility tightened right now, for issues related to the election.

Considering many people have already voted and probably do not care about this issue it would be unlikely to affect the outcome of the election anyway.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by frob »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #32
Hamuko wrote: post #23

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Is it? Because the factuality of the story seems like a pretty big deal here. If it's completely bogus, how is it different from any of those Russian trollfarm posts that the US government was worried about?

It's different because it was written by a major American newspaper. Twitter should not be exercising editorial control over the news.

The New York Post is not a serious newspaper; it is a sensationalist tabloid. Sometimes the NYPost will report on real news, but I believe absolutely nothing they report until it is verified by the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or other major broadcast outlet with actual journalistic standards.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by troughway »

Much like the HN thread that applauded FB getting rid of some thousands of accounts related to “right wingers”, QAnon, et cetera, I equally applaud this admirable move.

I hope that FB, Twitter, Google, Cloudflare and others continue to block and close accounts to prevent the intervention of democracy as much as possible.

A similar case to this may have been the reason why Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election in 2016. So these are all parties who are trying to right the wrongs here done by destructive state actors from abroad.

These are all companies who own the servers that this content sits on, and it’s well within their rights to get rid of it if and when they wish to.

If you don’t want your content removed from there, then don’t post there and don’t use their services. Simple as that.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

frob wrote: post #66
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's different because it was written by a major American newspaper. Twitter should not be exercising editorial control over the news.

The New York Post is not a serious newspaper; it is a sensationalist tabloid. Sometimes the NYPost will report on real news, but I believe absolutely nothing they report until it is verified by the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or other major broadcast outlet with actual journalistic standards.

Agreed, and I don't mean to imply any sort of endorsement of the NY Post.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by kube-system »

hirundo wrote: post #54

There's a recurring argument on social media censorship that goes: "you wouldn't want the telephone company censoring phone conversations would you?" And the response is along the lines: "these are hardly private conversations, any tweet can go viral and be seen by millions". This story breaks that mold in that it involves social media censoring private conversations via DM. If you think that's OK for Twitter on its…

I really hope AT&T starts censoring these damn spam calls. I've had 5 today.
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