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Post by devmunchies »

laurent92 wrote: post #512
save_ferris wrote: post #8

I moved back into my parents house after my lease expired, primarily to have regular social interaction again. > "While moving back home during the pandemic makes sense and is seen as socially acceptable or even smart, it also means you are living with people who still see you as your 18-year-old self." One of the biggest things I’ve noticed among millennials is how many parents fail to understand the emotional and m…

> how many parents fail to understand the emotional and mental situation of what their children are currently experiencing. This is crucial to understanding: - The immediate distress of young males. They have no chance of seducing externally if they don’t have moral support at home. Explains the billion of 9Gag posts about young people who fall addicted to gaming and joke about virginity and lack of self confidence,…

> they don’t understand is just people who we’ve abandoned, who count on no-one because no-one cares for them

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it's warmth"

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Post by z3t4 »

llarsson wrote: post #460
Tarsul wrote: post #428

I'm sorry but the title is misleading. It's not that 30M young people (18-29) are living with their parents due to Corona but more that the number has grown from 24M to 26,6M in America [!] since February. Meaning the title should rather be: "The pandemic has pushed 2,6M young Americans to move in with their parents." see the linked source from the article: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-…

Thank you. Also, given that colleges shut down and people had to leave dorm rooms, it very surprising that college-aged people needed a low-cost alternative housing situation? Especially one that could quickly be found? I don't think so.

Shutting down dorms seems like a stupid idea, as they are both less likely to become ill, and hopefully better educated/informed and thus less likely to spread the virus.

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Post by qes »

alextheparrot wrote: post #507
gruez wrote: post #479

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> Question: How many americans have reached 18 since february? Isn't that mostly canceled out by all the americans reaching 30?

If the age-in population has a 75% incidence and the age-out population has a 25% incidence it won’t cancel out. The age-in population will be adding a lot more than the age-out will be subtracting.

Wouldn't you assume the age-in and age-out are quite similar?

Why would you lean towards assuming it differs by such an astounding amount over a relatively short time period?

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Post by natrik »

irrational wrote: post #524
SrslyJosh wrote: post #487

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> At least when they are living on their own I don't have to know about their bad habits. Wow, maybe have a little empathy. The world is on fire and the future is bleak.

I live in Oregon where the world is literally on fire, but I certainly don't feel like the future is bleak.

+1. I hate this trend exacerbated by doomers making it seem like present day America is a horrible place to be in.

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Post by neutronicus »

dionidium wrote: post #358
tidepod12 wrote: post #284

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>One is because homes today are substantially larger and have more amenities than they did in previous generations. I have noticed that most of my fellow millennials seem to have completely forgotten the concept of "starter home" and assume that as soon as you turn 25 you should be entitled to a 4 bedroom house with a pool, huge yard, wonderful neighborhood, three-car garage, etc. Among my friends that have bought ho…

> I contend that it's not even just this, but also that within metros millenials are highly skewed to a handful of elite neighborhoods. In St. Louis there's a small but frothy back-to-the-city movement that's driving prices up to new highs in a handful of trendy neighborhoods. And it's all anybody can talk about. It's a kind of synecdoche for "the housing market" to reference these tiny neighborhoods while using carg…

Having just been in a similar market (Baltimore):

There was gorgeous old architecture to be had on the cheap, if you were okay with a couple crumbling vacants on the block, trash everywhere, poorly rated public schools, overflowing weeds, and frustratingly difficult access to the ostensibly adjoining trendy neighborhood (the ones I was looking at were separated by a half mile with a single cross street, where blocks in each of the neighborhoods are probably 4-500 feet long).

When you're shopping for ten years (and not just yourself) you get gun shy about stuff like that

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Post by Someone »

gruez wrote: post #479
Valgrim wrote: post #459

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Question: How many americans have reached 18 since february? Census says 4,021,726 americans were born in 2002, so 7 months since february: (7/12*4,021,726=2,346,006) + immigration... I'm not so sure this is how we should read those numbers. It could also mean that the majority of young people reaching 18 chose to stay with their parents a bit longer because of the pandemic.

> Question: How many americans have reached 18 since february? Isn't that mostly canceled out by all the americans reaching 30?

Maybe, but it would change the story from “The pandemic has pushed 2,6M young Americans to move in with their parents” to “The pandemic has kept 2,6M young Americans to stay with their parents”.

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Post by spencerflem »

irrational wrote: post #524
SrslyJosh wrote: post #487

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> At least when they are living on their own I don't have to know about their bad habits. Wow, maybe have a little empathy. The world is on fire and the future is bleak.

I live in Oregon where the world is literally on fire, but I certainly don't feel like the future is bleak.

As a 23 y/o, the future seems bleak to me. Our government and leadership has failed us, nobody is doing anything about climate change, and there is record unemployment.

On a personal level, especially with covid but also just life in general around now, all of my friends moved elsewhere and while we can keep in touch with social media it's still not as good as it was.

There just doesn't seem to be anything worth building towards, or anything much more meaningful than trying to keep close to what few friends you can.

I don't know your situation or your daughters but I can see myself in them somewhat.

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Post by [deleted] »

irrational wrote: post #538
froasty wrote: post #528

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Do you think you're enabling them in their bad habits?

They are adults. They can make their own decisions. I'm not going to tell them what to do. I tried to teach them the right things to do when they were growing up. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. They have their agency and have chosen the path they want to take.

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Post by MattGaiser »

sandworm101 wrote: post #554
irrational wrote: post #480

My 21 and 23 year old daughters have moved back in with us. They stay up until the wee hours of the morning watching streaming media, then wake up mid afternoon to get on social media, eat dinner with us and then repeat. I can't wait till they leave. At least when they are living on their own I don't have to know about their bad habits.

>>They stay up until the wee hours of the morning watching streaming media That is how young people keep contact with their collective culture. Do you expect them to sit in the corner reading newspapers? >> then wake up mid afternoon Efficient time-sharing of common areas. I have to haul myself into work before 6am, but when I get a day off I sleep as long as possible. That is healthy. >> to get on social media, Soci…

> That is as valid a career choice as wanting to be an actor or pro athlete.

Those all seem to be questionable career choices unless you are very good at them.

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