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This is a bad comment and you should delete it.
I'm willing to give HorizonXP the benefit of the doubt. Devoid of context, my statement isn't all that different from what some young adults would say. Parents or/and their children can mature as they grow older and relationships can heal.
The majority of 18- to 29-year-olds in the US are now living with their parents
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High tax rates are what causes this. You are effectively giving away half your wage to sustain a completely unknown person leeching off the government.
No, it isn't. Housing prices as they are are a product of supply and demand. Such that, regulations are preventing the building density required to meet unceasing demand propelled by immigration. Historically rate of taxes were not much different than they are now, whether for North America or the UK.
The reality is that building houses for investment is more profitable for developers so they keep building it. As opposed to affordable housing actually used for living. The result is a glut of luxury investment apartments and lack of affordable nonluxury housing.
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#283Millennials face a very real risk of being a lost generation financially. They have endured 2 major, years long recessions, and now the Covid pandemic coupled with social isolation and massive unemployment that does not appear to have an end date in sight. Housing is more expensive for them than prior generations, wages are stagnant, school is expensive and social conflict is also currently on deck. WW2 was of course…
Sorry to nitpick but the social isolation and massive unemployment are being caused by our response to the pandemic, not by the pandemic itself. Lockdowns are a choice, with tradeoffs.
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#284> Housing is more expensive for them than prior generations I harp on this constantly. But housing is not more expensive in the majority of American metros. Adjusted for inflation the median cost per square foot of new housing is almost exactly the same as it was in 1990. (This doesn't even take into account that mortgage rates are drastically lower since then.) We get skewed on this for two reasons. One is because h…
I have noticed that most of my fellow millennials seem to have completely forgotten the concept of "starter home" and assume that as soon as you turn 25 you should be entitled to a 4 bedroom house with a pool, huge yard, wonderful neighborhood, three-car garage, etc.
Among my friends that have bought houses, many of them have gone into significant debt just to buy a 3-4 bedroom house, even though they have no kids and only use one of the bedrooms, because they think that at some point in their life they will put them to use. The extra rooms go completely unused (other than the extra furniture which they also went into debt for). It's like they see the house that their parents own and assume that their house also needs to be that, and ignore the fact that their parents probably started out in a much smaller home and then moved into a big one once necessary.
>Two is that we're highly skewed to a handful of elite metros
I contend that it's not even just this, but also that within metros millenials are highly skewed to a handful of elite neighborhoods.
I live in a medium COL metro, and all of my friends constantly lament the "high" cost of houses and how they will never be able to afford a house. But when I ask what houses they are looking at, it's always the nicest, premiere neighborhoods that have McMansions with huge yards, white picket fences, hip restaurants within walking distance, etc. Not a single one of them even considers living in the many much cheaper neighborhoods.
There certainly are issues with prices in some areas (cough SF cough) but at least in my metro and in my friend group, the "houses cost too much" meme seems to be a scapegoat for what is really just an inflated sense of what housing they are entitled to.
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#285I moved back into my parents house after my lease expired, primarily to have regular social interaction again. > "While moving back home during the pandemic makes sense and is seen as socially acceptable or even smart, it also means you are living with people who still see you as your 18-year-old self." One of the biggest things I’ve noticed among millennials is how many parents fail to understand the emotional and m…
I really don't understand the argument of "time to grow up" if a person lived without parents fine for years. Obviously he/she had already grown up.
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Correct. It was from being very frugal in _all_ areas of the budget. Eating out, entertainment, internet, not taking vacations that wouldn't be financially responsible. Frugal dates, frugal Christmas/holiday celebrations, living in an extremely inexpensive apartment in a not-wonderful area of town. We were pretty late adopters of smart phones because we had cheap flip phones. We gave to charity too. It's all about pr…
The crucial data point is missing: "two very small incomes". US minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. 2 people working full-time at minimum wage would bring in a household income of $30k per year. But you couldn't possibly pay off $60k in debt and buy a house with that. So your household income had to be much, much higher. One cannot save oneself into a higher income.
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#287Re: The majority of 18- to 29-year-olds in the US are now living with their parents
#288> Housing is more expensive for them than prior generations I harp on this constantly. But housing is not more expensive in the majority of American metros. Adjusted for inflation the median cost per square foot of new housing is almost exactly the same as it was in 1990. (This doesn't even take into account that mortgage rates are drastically lower since then.) We get skewed on this for two reasons. One is because h…
Maybe if you stop looking at like 2018. But my on-the-ground analysis living on one of these cities is cost of housing has fucking exploooded. I built a house just two years ago, which I thought was incredibly expensive at 2 times the median home price in the area. I had it in the back of my head that I was insane to pay so much for a house, but since I could easily afford it, I went ahead with it.
Now, the median price has shot up by 25% and there are literally no new houses available for what I paid. My neighbors are relocating after only a year in their house and sold their house for 20% over what they paid new. The new construction 3 miles down the street from me starts at 30% more than what I paid, and a few are double or more. Meaning, 3-5x the median for the area.
All of this is trickling down to the rest of the area. Houses that went for $130k in 2015 have sale prices in the $200k range. We're talking 60s era ranch houses that haven't been updated since the 90s.
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#289I live downtown in a coastal city. What I’m seeing is a lot of young men living in the streets. This is the other side of this story some young adults don’t have a home to go back to after job loss and eviction. We’re seeing just the tip of the iceberg. I expect a lot more social upheaval in the coming years. Social services are going to get severely strained.
I've seen a documentary about San Francisco it's crazy how middle income people are being pushed farther from the city. One teacher had several bus transfers and then a long walk to get to her job. Even bus stops where "poor" people (less than $100,000/year) are being crowded by private buses like Google forcing city buses to wait which adds to the wait down the line. Nuts!
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#290Millennials face a very real risk of being a lost generation financially. They have endured 2 major, years long recessions, and now the Covid pandemic coupled with social isolation and massive unemployment that does not appear to have an end date in sight. Housing is more expensive for them than prior generations, wages are stagnant, school is expensive and social conflict is also currently on deck. WW2 was of course…
My grandfathers were an accountant and an engineer. The latter was really sought after too, he oversaw the construction of roads and spent months away and refused jobs to spend time home too. My parents were both musicians/painters/other artistic stuff on the side. We were always tight money-wise but somehow had a two kids middle class upbringing on the absolute best part of town. Every time I think of this my admira…