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Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Yessss. Any chrome equivalent

Aside from installing Firefox (best option), there is this: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/redirect-amp-to-ht...

It’s also available for Edge. https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/abjhjmfkmd...

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Not quite literal: It's recently up to 6 addons -- the others are https everywhere, privacy badger, noscript, dark reader, and search by image. Note to others: this is about the upcoming rewrite, available as Firefox Preview and Firefox Beta.

Firefox Beta and Firefox Preview are a bit different. Preview and Focus are both currently a bit more experimental, they're stable but they're not guaranteed to be kept alive. Firefox Beta and Nightly are both the current latest versions of what will be merged into the stable. There's a big rewrite being done and the current stable Firefox for Android which supports basically all addons that the desktop version does,…

Huh, I stand corrected. I assumed that since the geckoview / the new UI had come to beta, that it supported the same addons as preview.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Would you bat an eye at Google acquiring CloudFlare? What they're pushing with Amp and the related technologies grants them a near-unavoidable man-in-the-middle position. (FWIW I am careful to avoid Google properties at a pretty high cost.)

> Would you bat an eye at Google acquiring CloudFlare? Not anymore than I already do bat an eye at cloudflare. (It's probably worth noting here specifically that I do work at Google, so my risk profile is probably different than yours, for me personally and speaking solely from a trust perspective, I'd probably prefer it if Google acquired CloudFlare since I would get a net increase in transparency, but I can underst…

Thank you for taking the time to engage. Google is a scary beast at the end of the day, and I firmly believe it's an organism that should not remotely resemble what it is right now. Splitting it has potential to go a long way thinking about it.

I share these fears to a lesser degree with Microsoft and of course Facebook. Apple seems to do a great job of safeguarding, but they could become sour if they don't remain careful. Stuff like Clearview crosses the line into directly-dangerous. CloudFlare is currently innocent in my eyes, but they've managed to centralize a lot more channels than I'd like to think about.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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I couldn't agree more that AMP is terrible. I do everything I can to avoid it. Using DuckDuckGo certainly helps, but I will still occasionally stumble on an AMP site. I've created a hosts block list to help me avoid AMP as much as possible. It currently has 3,569 unique domains (works great with a PiHole!). I'm really concerned about Chrome's 'signed exchanges' where they can fake the URL completely. I hope Firefox w…

Even better than blocking AMP is just redirecting to the proper page[0]. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/amp2html/

Why not redrect to the blazing fast AMP page in the original domain (without the Google CDN), instead of often bloated full HTML page? E.g. https://example-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/example.com/amp_d... => https://example.com/amp_document.html

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Does it behave different in different countries? Will Google allow for example, Taiwan content in mainland China? Is it like VPN/Proxy or has more knobs?

> Will Google allow for example, Taiwan content in mainland China? Google doesn't run in mainland china, so this is a bit of a strange question. But let's assume that Google did. How would AMP or signed exchanges change the accessibility of Taiwan related content on Google in mainland china? Are you saying that the current Google results page would show Taiwan related content, but signed exchanges wouldn't, or what?…

> Are you saying that the current Google results page would show Taiwan related content, but signed exchanges wouldn't, or what?

My question is will signed exchanges serve content but where google search results are censored.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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I work in ad tech, with years of experience doing identification and targeting. I understand exactly what is happening. I wrote a reply to joshuamorton were I expressed my concerns.

Just realize that AWS / GCP / Azure have already gobbled up vast swaths of website hosting in all forms and are growing along with some free CDN and DNS providers. If google said, we want to track people, and brings android, chrome, dns resolvers, network infrastructure, google cloud compute, AI systems, google analytics which these media sites voluntarily, google play services etc to target and track you - they prob…

> If google said, we want to track people, and brings android, chrome, dns resolvers, network infrastructure, google cloud compute, AI systems, google analytics which these media sites voluntarily, google play services etc to target and track you - they probably could.

Their data governance team wouldn’t allow it. You are basically describing a system they could only introduce with the permission of the government. I don’t care if the government is tracking me honestly, I can’t fight that. I just don’t want Google tracking me for the purpose of influencing my spending habits, emotional state, or perception of the world. That is my main beef with their advertising capabilities.

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