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While the widespread zoom problems are due to issues with zoom, highly latency sensitive applications like VC will be degraded before a Netflix client even realises anything is happening on a network reaching saturation. It's very hard for the client to be a good citizen in this situation. Network-level QoS would help, but is a massive moral hazard (and generally illegal in the EU, anyway).
What is "network-level QoS"?
Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days
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As I understand it Netflix has hardware in ISP data centers to do exactly that. https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/
Netflix might have data centers that gets closer, but nothing will ever get as far reaching and close as P2P would. A residential building who are all watching the same movie would only have to download the movie from building internet once. Replicate this system on every level (local network building city country) and you get so much more bandwidth available. Of course there are other considerations and we (humans)…
2) Where does the upload bandwidth limitation live? Because if it's in the cable modem itself or the nearest upstream connection, this doesn't help much. There is probably much more capacity between the OpenConnect and the home than the home and its nextdoor neighbor.
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This is not "other first world problem", it's an unprecedented situation in which a good chunk of the world's population needs to be kept at home for extended periods of time. Preserving morale is important for preserving social distancing, which is important for dealing with the pandemic. Not to mention, everyone who isn't on Netflix now is probably videoconferencing. Which also elevates this problem to "important f…
You can do plenty of morale-preserving things on a slightly janky connection. And being worried about some visual stutter on your teleconference is solidly in the unimportant problem pile.
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#564Earlier quoted context omitted.
Torrenting is on the way out, from what I (as a casual torrenter) can tell. There is just a lot less material available. Maybe it's better on private trackers, but I haven't been a member of one in 15 years, nor would I know how to access/be invited to one even if I wanted to.
Its on the way out for casual use but its still the primary method for enthusiast use, Its the best and sometimes only place to get flac/bluray quality and the only reliable place for console games.
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#565I've been having major internet issues lately (Seattle area), have had 4 techs come try to figure it out. Yesterday's tech finally correctly diagnosed the problem as happening before the connection reaches our home but was unsure of the cause. He called his supervisor to investigate, and they found that the capacity for our neighborhood's node was nearly at 100%, while ideally it should always be under 80%. Fortunate…
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#566This is pure bullshit. If Netflix won't commit to it's part of the deal (FULL HD and 4K) then why should I commit to my part (13.99 monthly)? You cannot decide by yourself to lower the quality of your services and keep the price same. Sometimes I wish I had enough money and time to seek "legal retribution" from these type of situations. I would love for this case to make it to the European Court in Strasbourg. "The v…
You know, for a while I thought “the doors aren’t automatic at the REI” might be the ultimate first world problem, but now I think “I have to suffer through my pandemic passtime shows in standard definition ? where are my LAWYERS?” might be in first place.
I don't have problem with netflix reducing it. I have problem with netflix not reducing price together.
They're essentially painting themselves in glory AT THE PRICE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.
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#567Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not like ISPs could have build and extended their bandwidth over the last years, for example with the 40 €/month my father pays for < 16 MBit internet connection.
counter-anecdote: i pay 40 euros for 200 Mbit edit:misspelling
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#568Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days
#569Earlier quoted context omitted.
People are dying, you can handle a slightly worse video quality.
That's not the point though. My gym was closed and everyone's membership was automatically paused, they don't get to keep charging people. I'm fine with not going to the gym and I'm fine with a lower Netflix quality. But you shouldn't charge me for a service that you're simply not providing anymore. Netflix should downgrade everyone's plan automatically or just charge them less.
Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days
#570This is pure bullshit. If Netflix won't commit to it's part of the deal (FULL HD and 4K) then why should I commit to my part (13.99 monthly)? You cannot decide by yourself to lower the quality of your services and keep the price same. Sometimes I wish I had enough money and time to seek "legal retribution" from these type of situations. I would love for this case to make it to the European Court in Strasbourg. "The v…
They are doing EU a favor, with this one.
[1] https://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-in-talks-with-netfl...
[2] https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/19/eu-netflix-sd-streaming-...