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Why when they can just fork it and improve it on their own with AI?

Subsidized tokens aren’t forever & local models might not compete with an entire team of volunteers, I’d guess.

Unsubsidised token prices that people would actually pay for is a fantasy.

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I like that the trailing players strategy (Meta, xAI) is to open source the moat of the leaders. I think we will all benefit from it. and hopefully both the leaders and the trailing players will be much less powerful in the end.

What does this open source that the Codex harness hasn't already?

You can't use your mouse with command line Codex.

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Interesting. Thai characters can also blow it out, I imagine because of the difficulty mapping glyphs to width: https://biztos.com/hey/thai-mermaid-chart.png To my surprise, Sublime Text gets it almost right: https://biztos.com/hey/sublime-thai-mermaid.png I tried finding a Thai monospace font and using that in the HTML but it was worse, probably didn't have the box drawing chars. Still a fun tool and useful for lots…

The first issue is due to the assumption that character count equals character display width. Thai tone markers usually[1] should not contribute to the display width (เพื่อน is chars = 6, width = 4), so it caused a layout shift. The second issue is due to the program's layout engine not adjusting the glyph width of a fallback font to that of the main font. A lot of terminals do this, but it's not common for text edit…

Thanks for the explanation.

Safari on iPad lines these up almost perfectly - the second line is a tiny bit wider, I didn’t even notice it at first.

That example had a tone mark but no vowels, so I will try one with both. E&OE.

    |ดื่มน้ำอยู่|
    |abcdef|
[edit] These are even closer, but still imperfectly aligned on my iPad.

Re: Grok Build is open source

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Another tactical move is to just stop. You're allowed to exit the AI business. Nobody's forcing you to keep throwing money into the furnace. Just be a rocket company. All of the xAI founders left. Your product's brand name is mud. Just stop doing that and build spaceships.

You misunderstand Musk's motivation. This was never about money for him, but about control over a key technology. One of the main reasons he exited OpenAI was the fact that the other co-founders wanted to create a structure where no one, Musk included, would be able to seize full control of the company. That was the thing that prompted him to leave, which tells you a lot about what he really wanted in the first place…

Honestly, this is exclusively about money. xAI and X were complete money pits, Tesla's brand was tarnished and SpaceX was the only remaining untainted brand but it has an obvious problem.

Starship didn't turn out to be the obvious victory that Musk had in mind. He basically threw away the Falcon 9 mindset of incremental progress and is instead trying to use a completely different methodology on what amounts to be a vertically stacked shuttle.

Just look at the first thing SpaceX did after selling more than $60 billion worth of shares during the IPO: They borrowed another $20 billion to turn the junk bonds (11% to 16%) from X and xAI into lower interest (5%) long duration (2030s to 2040s) debt. They're probably saving a billion USD per year just from the debt restructuring alone and the IPO lets Musk keep funding the endless money pit that Starship represents.

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Wait, you think not giving additional aid = responsibility for whatever happens in the developing country? Does this blame go for the rest of the year, decade, or century? Does giving aid in the first place automatically trigger this? If I gave $500 to kids cancer research every year for 5 years, and then I don't give this year, do I have blood on my hands every time a kid dies of cancer from now on? And if you didn'…

There were a lot of voters who didn't want those cuts. So they complain. Is that what swing voters thought they were getting? The government spends like 1000 billion on the military, a couple/few 10s of billions on aid is just being charitable. And projects soft power, buying good will. And was probably well used by the cia. And then there's the philopher Peter Singer, who would say that not helping other people is i…

> Some religions ephasize such things.

Theoretically, the religion of most of the voters of the current POTUS emphasizes and almost mandate being charitable and help the poor.

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Weird how other people can put up more money and not be able to make the same things as Musk’s companies.

Easy he constantly forces them to cut corners and take risks put their lives in danger "Tesla Has Highest Fatal Accident Rate of All Auto Brands", "Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death. "

That's a somewhat valid point about the "move fast and break things" culture at SpaceX. I'm sure there's some correlation between the pioneering, hyper-productive culture at Elon's companies and safety violations, but there's no way you could claim that lax safety standards account for the massive gap between SpaceX and the rest of the entire industry. It's not like they're just pumping widgets out of a factory faster and cheaper. They've revolutionized the cutting edge across all aspects, including design, software, etc. If the best companies could be explained by cutting safety corners, then China would be leading America in everything.

And that was the first I'd heard about high fatality rates for Tesla, so I looked it up. The cars themselves are always rated as very safe, and it seems the reason for high fatalities is just who buys them. Apparently, it's young, affluent, more risk-tolerant people who frequently drive fast on highways.

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No man, I’d you had just said > I was willing to give him a pass… That could be logically consistent given how he is more censorious than the previous management, but you said > I was willing to give him a pass (still am)… That means you are giving him a pass on having more censorious behavior than what the group you disliked did. That just comes off like you’re biased and trying to hide it. I don’t think you’re gett…

I don't think you're allowed to define what good faith is if you can't read my mind And I don't even know what they censor now, it's just that the old system was more publically known Please don't be intentionally irritating

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